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Everyone know Wallid beat a four Gracie. Rickson just a stay in the home. Show up!
Maybe, but I could also easily see Coleman or Kerr beating on Royce until the towel was thrown, or Kerr breaking his neck with a crank. Either of the three ways are feasible.Based on the Takada fights and his fights in the Vale Tudo Japan tournaments to me it looked like Rickson was a much more aggressive and reckless fighter than Royce, Takada had multiple opportunities to land significant strikes in those fights(he hurt him with a knee at one point if I remember correctly) but he was too intimidated by the aura and completely folded in both fights. I can see Rickson getting caught against a good striker in the old days. With that said though he was a great athlete, really fast and dynamic, I actually think he could have beaten the wrestlers like Coleman and Kerr due to better stamina and better submission skills, but I think Royce could have beaten those guys too(in a fight with no rounds/time limit or stand ups).
Yeah, true. I didn't realize that Rickson was such a short dude. When I picture him, I just see muscle.Those guys are part of the next generation after Rickson's though. Rickson had decent opponents for his time in those Vale Tudo Japan tournaments that were kind of Shooto's version of the early UFC events (and ended up doing the same; promoting Gracie Jiu Jitsu) and of course fought Funaki in his last bout. I imagine he wouldn't have beaten guys like Coleman, Kerr and Rutten but Rickson was much smaller anyway and was born a bit too late for MMA.
Saku vs. Rickson would have been amazing, too bad Rockson died.
He would have gotten trashed in MMA but when it comes to BJJ, no one has publicly come out and said he was ever overrated when it comes to that, and usually word will get out in gym circles as to who is getting their ass kicked, who juices, etc
So I have no choice but to believe he's all that in BJJ. But again, he would get smashed in MMA like all the other Gracie's. Did you see him fight in PRIDE 1? Super stiff and purposely puts his chin out.
Rickson is different levelWhat about prime Rickson v. prime Maia?
Even at his age if he stepped in when Royce did in the UFC he would've done just as good.
Did you watch his Pride fights?Guys, I GOTTA know: I know all the "legendary" stories of Rickson, but seriously, how would he have done in the UFC during his days as a fighter? I know, I know, he's 400000-0, except that one time in Sambo, but for real, for the folks that saw him in his prime, how would he have done? I've been a fight fan for a long, long time, but never watched him live, so I don't know. Was he legit, or more of a made up legend?
***In before Rickson by armbar***
***In before Rickson 400-0***
Sure I did. Takada, but that's not too much of an indication on how he'd have done against great grapplers/wrestlers/strikers.Did you watch his Pride fights?
I also wonder. I met him a few months ago and my Professor trained under himSure I did. Takada, but that's not too much of an indication on how he'd have done against great grapplers/wrestlers/strikers.
What about prime Rickson v. prime Maia?
Yeah? Is he pretty down to earth, or typical Gracie?I also wonder. I met him a few months ago and my Professor trained under him
Rickson was dope because of his philosophy and his approach to training. I dont give a shit how he would have done, one thing I know for sure he was on a higher level of skill than Royce.