Dutch, Danish, and Swedish are probably closer to English than German is though, even though everyone says English and German are close languages.
it is a germanic language, people confuse that with being close to german.
Dutch, Danish, and Swedish are probably closer to English than German is though, even though everyone says English and German are close languages.
Correct me if im wrong, but didn't most of the inbred creoles move up to quebec after the Louisiana purchase?
There are quite a few words that are very similar.it is a germanic language, people confuse that with being close to german.
How did you find learning German as a 3rd language?There are quite a few words that are very similar.
But most of the syntax in English comes from French.
Yes. German is basically the mother language of Germanic languages. From what I understand, it's easier for a Dutch speaker to understand German than vice versa. Similar to how it's easier for Portuguese speakers to understand Spanish than vice versa.Dutch, Danish, and Swedish are probably closer to English than German is though, even though everyone says English and German are close languages.
How did you find learning German as a 3rd language?
Not sure if serious.
Greek influenced latin lot. Therefore Greeks should be fine if Italian started to endanger Greek ?
What kind of ridiculous fuckin argument is that?
Endanger? Saying "hot dog" instead of "chien chaud" is not endangering anything; just like saying "information" instead of something based off of "Auskunft" hasn't endangered English. Languages change and that change comes from below, regardless of what the old dorks in language academies think.
Bilingualism is inherently unstable to begin with. If anything is going to kill Quebec French, it's not going to be loanwords, it's going to be replacement altogethe It's going to be people choosing to speak English over French, for various reasons. Show me an example of a language that imported so many loans that it died. Good luck finding one. English certainly didn't die despite being heavily frenchified. Bon chance, or whatever.
i didnt know the french side of canada was more sissy than the british side but i should have known better.
Where does Magyar fit into this convo? According to a French historian from the 15th century (forgot his name), Hungarian was supposed to be extinct by the 17th century. It's a standalone language full of loan words with a small population of speakers surrounded by Slavic and Germanic speakers. Yet it's actually recovering well from the blow it took from the Treaty of Trianon a century ago.This post is a huge pile of steaming shit.
You don't need to look further than Western Europe to find languages that have died or are dying.
Look at all the Celtic languages in the Great Britain / Ireland / Bretagne. Less than 1 % of the people under 30 speak these languages as native speakers. Gaelic languages are dead, or almost dead.
Look at Basque in Southern France : dying.
Occitan in Southern France : dead or almost.
Corsican : dying pretty fast.
The reason these languages died is because the people speaking those languages didn't have the means to protect their languages, including loanwords, btw.
Oh and yes, absolutely, old English died due to the French influence.
You sound like the typical unilingual person from an unchallenged population who can't understand how people would want to protect their language.
Where does Magyar fit into this convo? According to a French historian from the 15th century (forgot his name), Hungarian was supposed to be extinct by the 17th century. It's a standalone language full of loan words with a small population of speakers surrounded by Slavic and Germanic speakers. Yet it's actually recovering well from the blow it took from the Treaty of Trianon a century ago.
Interesting convo.
True enough. But the cultural and language exchange is very much one way only, and that is inwards. Especially with the english language, as it's become the defacto 2nd language due to the employment opportunities it affords within the EU.I don't think Magyar is in a comparable situation in any way. Hungary is surrounded by German, Slavic and latin speakers, so it is not being flooded by one single language and culture, and none of these surrounding cultures is as potent as the American one.
What they are striving for ain't much different to all the Anglos in Britain concerned about the erosion of British culture. Or Anglo Americans unhappy about Spanish encroachment.You just described Quebec. Beautiful place, filled to the brim with stupidity.
Interesting thread. I used to be pretty critical of the protectionism in Quebec, even though I grew up in French immersion, but my position has softened as I get older. I can now understand the desire to protect that which is unique to this part of the world.Why because we protect our language and culture ?
This post is a huge pile of steaming shit.
You don't need to look further than Western Europe to find languages that have died or are dying.
Look at all the Celtic languages in the Great Britain / Ireland / Bretagne. Less than 1 % of the people under 30 speak these languages as native speakers. Gaelic languages are dead, or almost dead.
Look at Basque in Southern France : dying.
Occitan in Southern France : dead or almost.
Corsican : dying pretty fast.
The reason these languages died is because the people speaking those languages didn't have the means to protect their languages, including loanwords, btw.
Oh and yes, absolutely, old English died due to the French influence.
You sound like the typical unilingual person from an unchallenged population who can't understand how people would want to protect their language.
Interesting thread. I used to be pretty critical of the protectionism in Quebec, even though I grew up in French immersion, but my position has softened as I get older. I can now understand the desire to protect that which is unique to this part of the world.
Do you feel a sense of responsibility, like being a custodian of language and culture for the next generation? And how do you feel about "fin de semaine" instead of "le weekend"?
How about you compare apples with apples?
You’re comparing French that’s spoken by at least 300 million ppl (maybe more) in 30 different countries to some european regional languages that were spoken by few anyways.
Also let’s not forget that in most those cases native speakers of those languages were imposed the dominant language.
If French in Canada didn’t lose their language from the time they lost Canada to today, there’s no reason to believe they’ll lose it now.
Also it’s natural that the language evolves overtime
French from 500 years ago or even 200 years ago is not the same as today.
Same with English, German, Arabic....
Well that wouldn't be evolution, it would be a loss of identity.
Of course if you don't care about it you can just say "live and let live ", but it would mean that our culture would cease to exist. One of the reasons French is alive and well in Qc is precisely because we protect it.
But you obviously don't care about French in Québec so this conversation is pointless.
Just look at how many stupid posts are ITT.
Preserving French is something that English speakers are allergic to.