Professional Fighters League (PFL) secures $28m investment

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  1. leto1776

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    PFL, sorry. He was matchmaker and an executive under WSOF, and seems he’s still heavily involved. At the time, he was matching fighters he personally managed, and giving them favorable matchups, ie, getting a higher percentage when they won.
     
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  3. THEfightsAREfixed

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    Is PFL a single tournament or a sports league? I was under the impression it was a league similar to NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL.

    The tournaments Bellator and Strikeforce and even the UFC has done like for the introduction of the flyweight is different.

    Bellator never had a regular season, playoffs, and championship.

    So ACTUALLY, your completely wrong and attempted to use a false equivalency and failed.
     
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    RODNEY83 Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    Nah,
    WEAK, REAL WEAK, you can use all the semantics you like, but your argument is weak. Especially when you were given a proven example of a MMA organization with a tournament format actually worked named Bellator.
     
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    RODNEY83 Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    Still no examples of fighters getting injured that ruined these tournaments. StrikeForce Heavyweight Tournament was ruined because Scott Coker dragged it out from February 12, 2011 to May 19, 2012.
     
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    RODNEY83 Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    Nah, VIP1349 statement was completely unfounded and a totally generic blanket statement. And your semantics can't change that.
     
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    Eddie might be able to beat a bunch of possibly shitty unknown guys.
     
  8. THEfightsAREfixed

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    PFL isn't a tournament.

    It's a sports league. You don't seem to understand what you're talking about.
     
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    Yeah you can try to use all the semantics you want to and it's still WEAK. I actually understand what you mean, but felt like messing with you. Anyway, be a positive MMA fan and hope the PFL succeeds and does well and not a typical negative MMA internet fan by stating it won't work. The PFL has investors, they are putting on nice shows, the crowds has gotten more and more boisterous, and we aren't hearing any reports about finances. I'm looking forward to seeing how a full season works starting in January 2019 and with Women Featherweights added to the bill.
     
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    So you're one of these internet trolls I've been reading about. Disgusting.

    I hope everything works out for everybody ultimately, but sometimes that means taking a knock and learning a lesson.

    PFL is trying to put a the wrong shaped thing in the wrong shaped hole, and we all know how that works out.

    It's really awesome until it isn't.
     
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    What do you forsee happening exactly? 1 or 2 of the finalists not being able to make the final date? Or all 12 of them? I don't know your answer, but say your answer is 2, and PFL simply replaces them with the next deserving fighter in line. Do you really see that as being a big enough issue that it would derail the whole promotion? Cause in my opinion it wouldn't be a big deal.
     
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    You haven't read on story about the PFL financially struggling. You have gotten PFL fights regularly this season with no hiccups. So you are complaining about a unknown of something you can't possibly know. Do you know how much the PFL has made from their gates? Do you know how much the PFL has made from advertisers? Do you know how much the PFL contract is paying them from NBCSN? Do you know the PFL expenses in any and all facets? All you are doing is being the typical negative MMA internet fan. MMA internet fans are the worst. Hate on everything MMA, yet claim they love MMA. The PFL owners are wealthy people and here are MMA internet fans acting like those people became wealthy by making bad decisions. Why is it so hard for you MMA internet fans to be positive about a MMA organization that is putting on MMA fights to entertain us fans and provide jobs for MMA fighters so they can pursue their dreams and provide for their families?
     
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    Fair points.

    Not really relevant to anything I said but I'm happy to provide you an opportunity to vent your frustrations.

    PFL isn't doing something no one thought of before, they are doing something that doesn't make sense fundamentally.

    Maybe I'm wrong though and the PFL investors get even richer and all the fighters get paid big bucks and none of them get hurt and they can fight over and over again in a short period repeatedly.

    Only time will tell.
     
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    The fights will be lackluster because they will have to be to keep the winners capable of fighting again in a short period. Or the winners will not be able to continue from common injuries like broken hands/feet/whatever.

    This will have an effect on the promotion over time, likely derailing the climactic ending they are hoping for in the playoffs and championships.
     
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    It's possible, but from my recent experience with tournaments like Rizin, TUF, Bellator, and the PFL so far, the quality of fights doesn't seem to diminish. In fact sometimes you have guys trying to end fights quicker to stay healthy, which can make things exciting. I'm not just saying that to counter your point, it's just that every recent tournament that comes to mind, like Horiguchi's 4 Rizin fights in 5 months, seemed to work out smoothly. It feels like promotions have figured out how to deal with pull outs, so even when there is a injury it doesn't seem so bad.

    Once PFL presents its top 8 of each division (as well as their playoff brackets), it's really just 2 days the fighters need to show up for. Once in October, and once in December. It doesn't seem likely that all 6 tournaments will fall apart, and because of that, PFL is pretty much guaranteed at least a couple of properly set up million dollar fights for the final episode of the season. I think it'll be good.
     
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    Yeah it's possible to fight five times in six months, but there's a reason very few fighters do that. They have a limited number of draws and they are not even big names, just recognizable as UFC dropouts.

    The playoffs involve two fights in one night and then a short turnaround for the NYE championship. That's very risky and then you have the winner unable to continue and you deflate the whole build up.

    I agree that you have a good chance for at least a couple of the championships to pan out.

    I went and looked at the results so far and there have been a good amount of finishes, and they don't allow elbows, so maybe the fighters will game accordingly.
     
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    Time will tell how smoothly (or unsmoothly) this goes. The point about PFL having a limited number of draws is a whole different conversation.
     
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    I didn't tie that point in well, but I mentioned that to highlight how damaging it could be to have a dropout.
     
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    Could you imagine someone reading this out of context?
     
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