Marc Goddards New Statement.

Trifick said:
Bro. He was clearly knocked out. He couldn't get on his feet for at least a minute. It was over.
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What if this guy was having a brain hemorrhage and no one had time to check on his status and get the medical attention he needed? Who would be to blame for that? Conor should be barred from ever being in any corner again at the least.
 
b34stmode said:
What if this guy was having a brain hemorrhage and no one had time to check on his status and get the medical attention he needed? Who would be to blame for that? Conor should be barred from ever being in any corner again at the least.
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Conor fans would blame Goddard, the commission, the quiet bell, the UFC, Bellator, anyone.

Fight fans would support what you said above.
 
SherdogJoe said:
Ok I agree with you but you can't blame Conor. He thought the fight was over. Goddard stopped the fight but didn't wave it off. The problem is nobody was looking for him to wave it off, once he stopped it it was assumed the fight was over.

So it was just an honest mistake by goddard, followed by an honest mistake by Conor.

You shouldn't be blaming Conor. Any fighter would've done what he did. The real root of the problem here was that Goddard was unable to hear the bell.

Somoene earlier suggested a visual cue is needed instead of just an audio cue. And that's true. Have some sort of round ending visual cue so that the ref knows the round is over and this won't happen again.

You saying Conor is wrong isn't fair. No one is to blame except the setup which doesn't have the visual cue that the rounds over.
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This is the real crux of it. Goddard made an honest mistake, which him and "his fans" refuse to admit. Based on the size of the arena, and the attendance at the time of that fight, he might need some medical assistance with hearing the bell in the future, if he is expected to work large events.

That should be the real issue here, if people are truly concerned with the integrity of events and safety of fighters. None of this happens if Goddard doesn't mistakenly stop the fight early.

The NBA instituted a light on the backboard that coincides with the buzzer. The UFC recently added lights in the apron around the ring. No reason those lights can't be installed around every cage, and turn red as soon as the bell sounds.
 
Trifick said:
Bro. He was clearly knocked out. He couldn't get on his feet for at least a minute. It was over.
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No man, no. A fight is not over when a fighter "couldn't get on his feet for at least a minute"!

Do you guys even watch this sport when it doesn't' involve Conor?? How can you say things like the above??

The fight is over when the referee calls it over or when all the rounds are finished. That's it! There is no "if x fighter lies unresponsive for y time it is now a free for all in the cage and the ref's ruling is no longer the law"

That's just not a thing. At all. You guys are so clearly wrong on this.
 
mudrubble said:
No, man, sorry, but no.

Conor hit an official to get in the cage. You're not allowed to do that, even if you think the fight is over.

Conor pushed Goddard, and told him that the fight WAS over no matter his ruling, and even said he'd come and find him in his hometown!

Goddard chose NOT to engage Conor and go to the fallen fighter instead and do his job. Conor FOLLOWED him taunting him!

No - a fighter does not get to do these things to the ref and call it "an honest mistake". Goddard made an HONEST mistake. He didn't hit anyone, push anyone, threaten anyone or attack anyone. He could not hear the bell. That's not even a mistake. It's an unfortunate circumstance. He did the RIGHT THING in that circunstance and estimated when the round was over. Nothing more he could have done.

To put that on the same level as Conor hitting officials, pushing officials, telling them how to rule, threatening them..... I mean if these are both just "honest mistakes" I don't know what to say to you man.

One of these should carry a STRICT punishment and the other maybe needs a visual cue or louder bell, etc.
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Doesn't sound like we're talking about the same thing anymore. We were talking about Conor jumping the cage, and now you're talking about Conor hitting guys, threatening people, and all this other stuff.

I never said Conor hitting anyone was an honest mistake. You're all over the place.
 
SherdogJoe said:
Ok I agree with you but you can't blame Conor. He thought the fight was over. Goddard stopped the fight but didn't wave it off. The problem is nobody was looking for him to wave it off, once he stopped it it was assumed the fight was over.

So it was just an honest mistake by goddard, followed by an honest mistake by Conor.

You shouldn't be blaming Conor. Any fighter would've done what he did. The real root of the problem here was that Goddard was unable to hear the bell.

Somoene earlier suggested a visual cue is needed instead of just an audio cue. And that's true. Have some sort of round ending visual cue so that the ref knows the round is over and this won't happen again.

You saying Conor is wrong isn't fair. No one is to blame except the setup which doesn't have the visual cue that the rounds over.
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Goddard made a quick error in judgement. Conor slapped an official and pushed a referee, there is no comparison. Get your head out of Conors ass.
 
Ken Fresno said:
This is the real crux of it. Goddard made an honest mistake, which him and "his fans" refuse to admit. Based on the size of the arena, and the attendance at the time of that fight, he might need some medical assistance with hearing the bell in the future, if he is expected to work large events.

That should be the real issue here. None of this happens if Goddard doesn't mistakenly stop the fight early.

The NBA instituted a light on the backboard that coincides with the buzzer. The UFC recently added lights in the apron around the ring. No reason those lights can't be installed around every cage, and turn red as soon as the bell sounds.
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Ok, so you say Goddard made the mistake. Then you say Bellator should install lights. That suggests it's not Goddard's mistake if it's Bellator's job to fix.

The idea that Goddard is medically unique for being unable to hear the bell is ridiculous to fight fans. SOOOO many refs have complained about this, either they're ALL medically compromised or the bell is not loud enough.

That is NOT Goddard's fault! He does NOT make those rules!

He didn't make a "mistake" in stopping the round early. He made an educated guess. He knew he didn't hear the bell but he can't just let the fight continue. A mistake is doing something you didn't intend or know better than to do. He did what an official SHOULD do in that circumstance.

And Conor assaulted him, another official, badgered the ref to stop the fight, threatened to come find him in his neighbourhood and refused to accept his ruling that the fight had not YET been stopped!

That's not a "mistake" it's a "cokehead move" simple and plain. To compare doing the best you can when the bell is not loud enough to trying to fight a ref who's trying to attend to an injured fighter is moronic. Sorry.
 
So he was trying to let the concussed fighter who was dazed and still on the floor on hands and knees for 30 seconds to get up and stop being knocked out and it’s going to another round?

Oh ok
 
cheesus said:
Goddard made a quick error in judgement. Conor slapped an official and pushed a referee, there is no comparison. Get your head out of Conors ass.
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We weren't talking about Conor slapping and pushing people. We were talking about Conor jumping the cage.

"Get your head out of Conors ass"
Cool thanks for showing that you're not only dumb and can't follow a conversation, but that you're also an asshole.
 
mudrubble said:
He was unsure of whether or not he'd stopped the round early. If he did, the fight was already over and he had to call it off. If not, the fight was still on and he'd have to call it off.

Either way he'd have to call it off, but he had to find out if he was early on the round stoppage as per rules. He was doing his job. Conor got in there and started shoving him and threatening to see him on the streets.

C'mon man. That can ONLY be coke talking at that point. Conor isn't stupid. This was STUPID! And surprisingly cokehead-like.
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1. Conor DID NOT start the shoving.

2. Stupid is claiming someone is on Coke just because they did something 'you think it is stupid'

You have been corrected.
 
SherdogJoe said:
We weren't talking about Conor slapping and pushing people. We were talking about Conor jumping the cage.

"Get your head out of Conors ass"
Cool thanks for showing that you're not only dumb and can't follow a conversation, but that you're also an asshole.
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Even so, how is jumping the cage an 'honest mistake', do you know what an honest mistake means ? Conor knows he isn't allowed to enter the cage until the fight is called off. He did it anyway, there was nothing honest about it.
 
mudrubble said:
Ok, so you say Goddard made the mistake. Then you say Bellator should install lights. That suggests it's not Goddard's mistake if it's Bellator's job to fix.

The idea that Goddard is medically unique for being unable to hear the bell is ridiculous to fight fans. SOOOO many refs have complained about this, either they're ALL medically compromised or the bell is not loud enough.

That is NOT Goddard's fault! He does NOT make those rules!

He didn't make a "mistake" in stopping the round early. He made an educated guess. He knew he didn't hear the bell but he can't just let the fight continue. A mistake is doing something you didn't intend or know better than to do. He did what an official SHOULD do in that circumstance.

And Conor assaulted him, another official, badgered the ref to stop the fight, threatened to come find him in his neighbourhood and refused to accept his ruling that the fight had not YET been stopped!

That's not a "mistake" it's a "cokehead move" simple and plain. To compare doing the best you can when the bell is not loud enough to trying to fight a ref who's trying to attend to an injured fighter is moronic. Sorry.
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You do realize nobody can take you serious when you say anyone was "assaulted" in that incident. Not to mention both Goddard and the other official "assaulted" Conor first.

Now, riddle me this, if Goddard had to make an educated guess as to when the bell sounded, and he stopped the round early, how do we know he wouldn't have heard the bell?.. when he intervened before the bell had a chance to sound, and his intervening created an extra surge of noise....

He's using an excuse for stopping the round late, when he stopped the round early. And you'e buying it simply because you hate Conor.

And I'm saying these mistakes can be prevented, with a lighted apron that coincides with the bell. But you can't even admit the mistake. So why look for a solution. Just ban Conor right?
 
Blanqa Blanqua said:
1. Conor DID NOT start the shoving.

2. Stupid is claiming someone is on Coke just because they did something 'you think it is stupid'

You have been corrected.
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Who did then ? Are you insinuating Goddard instigated all of this from giving Conor a light love tap to get him away from the injured fighter ?
 
the amount of people who think reading that is a time consuming chore makes me worry for the future.

Read ? for a couple mins? I don’t think so, stupid!
 
cheesus said:
Even so, how is jumping the cage an 'honest mistake', do you know what an honest mistake means ? Conor knows he isn't allowed to enter the cage until the fight is called off. He did it anyway, there was nothing honest about it.
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He thought the fight was called off. That's the honest mistake.

Did Conor intentionally jump the when he knew the fight wasn't over? No. He thought the fight was over.
 
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