Jones would not have been top 10 without steroids

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    I know he had some flashy and unorthodox techniques but I think without steroids Jones would not have been nearly as good as he was. Obviously he didn't just take steroids twice, if I were to guess I would say he had been taking them his entire career. Without steroids he wouldn't have been able to train as often, wouldn't be as strong or as fast as he was. I think he realised early that he didn't have what it takes to become an elite fighter so he decided to cheat his way there.
    It's a pity because he could have been a very good fighter but we'll never know now because Jones was never a clean fighter. I'd like to see Jones banned for life as I don't think 4 years is enough of a penalty. I have no interest in seeing lab created cowards fight against legitimate hard working fighters. Maybe someday the repercussions for cheating will be enough to stop people from using PEDs
     
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    Steroids are not this magic pill you take that gives you instant abilities like Jones has.

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    It only "enhances" what you all ready have... & most of Jones' rise was pre-USADA & so his competitors also had access to the same enhancerz.
     
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    I'm glad to see Jones still brings pain to so many sherdoggers.
     
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    There's just simply no way you can know this. There's good evidence to suggest that the majority of fighters were on it too; that the natty fighers were the exception rather than the rule. Supposedly, he didn't train all that regularly anyway. If we want to go down that road of totally discrediting fighters who were enhanced, the list is very long. We're pretty much left with Michael Bisping and the Diaz bros.
     
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    I also want to see clean fighters fight. It's a very un-heathy message to send to young fighters that feel the only way they can compete is to subject their bodies to un-healthy enhancers.

    The UFC with its USADA program is doing everything it can to keep the sport clean & so we move on from here in hopes that our favorite fighters have taken a look around & don't mess with that stuff.
     
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    You can't go from a mediocre fighter to the best fighter in the world just by doing steroids, Jon would be a monster even without PEDs, just would have never achieve the dominance that he did while being juiced to the gills.
     
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    The way I see it is everyone was on some sort of sh!t. So the playing field was even..

    Jon Jones = goat
     
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    Jones took a tainted supplement
     
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    Many fighters take steroids and never reach level of Jon Jones, in fact the only one I can think of is Anderson Silva.

    He has great fight IQ, a lot of heart, and is very skillful, Jon didn't rely on overpowering someone, so I don't see why he wouldn't of been atleast a top 10 fighter without the juice.

    That being said there's only 3 fights he's had that I personally believe he would've lost, and that is Gus, and both DC bouts.
     
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    Choose Jon, one will give you skill, fight IQ, instinct, & experience. The other will let you keep all that < and but give a bit more pop!

    Peds/steroids don't make the fighter the fighter makes the fighter, if peds were magic we would be seeing a lot more superstar fighters instead we seeing a lot of who da f*k is that fighters getting popped lately....
     
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    All bullshit considering most of the fighters he destroyed were roiding ot on trt as well.
     
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    He doesnt win by brutal KO s like Belfort,he had never that killer punches kicks so I guess roids arent a huge factor for him to win fights
     
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    Biggest lie ever told lol Jones trains like a madman
     
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    I hate jones and hope he gets banned for life but seriously without gear he would still tear 95 percent of that division in half, they may have lasted an extra round who knows. Gear helps, a lot, but it isnt some magical thing in the fight game like it would be for sprinting, there is still a lot of variables to consider. With or without gear these top 20 fighters are still top 20.
     
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    But he wouldn't be able to train as hard or as often if he didn't take steroids. Steroids could allow him to get in an extra workout every day which would be a massive advantage in every aspect of MMA. He gets to train harder and more often than clean fighters, that's gonna help a lot of things not just punching power
     
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    even then we really don't know who did what and when in their life ...
     
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    you should see Jones' first UFC fight
     
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    He'd still be top 10, C'mon Man....
     
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