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I am and have been for several years after working many years in the corporate world, most of it at Libbey Glass and Calphalon.Do you want to be a stay at home mother?
I am and have been for several years after working many years in the corporate world, most of it at Libbey Glass and Calphalon.Do you want to be a stay at home mother?
End thread.The most important responsibility a mother has is to her children and family. It's not to her career or the feminist cause.
Mothers should have the right to decide what's best for her family.
I am and have been for several years after working many years in the corporate world, most of it at Libbey Glass and Calphalon.
Stupid, but women like this show you exactly why (real) feminists are necessary.
Now you've got a thread full of people attacking all feminists because one dumbass couldn't stop the stupid from pouring out of her face hole.
Another obstacle for feminism. It will prevail.
Hahaha but not going there..Now I understand why you can post all day.
Yep. Like every hour I take a few minutes and type. I've never counted, but I'm sure most weekdays I post at least twenty-five comments. Sadly, this isn't even the only forum I frequent.Now I understand why you can post all day.
Yep. Like every hour I take a few minutes and type. I've never counted, but I'm sure most weekdays I post at least twenty-five comments. Sadly, this isn't even the only forum I frequent.
All told, it's good for me to take the time to frame a thought that isn't something like "Stop!", "No!", "Here's your milk!", "Eat your sandwich!" The winter is very much the worst. Once summer comes the kids can run and get muddy outside, and it is much less nerve-wracking.
*acid minesThere is always work to be done in the salt mines
Working at walmart in your seventies must be just like dying in a ditch. Seriously hard to even move when youre that ageBetter than dying on a ditch.
I think there is a very strong authoritarian streak in mainstream feminism that has it's roots in second wave feminism. That's why I quoted SImone de Beauvoir of all people articulating the same ideas as this lady. You're objectively wrong that its only one dumbass who thinks like this.
True feminism, or perhaps I should say good feminism, has already prevailed. All these people going on about the patriarchy and telling women how to live aren't feminists in any reasonable sense. They seem to detest most women, and are only interested in protecting or furthering the interests of leftist women. And that is the broad ones who see beyond upper middle class, white, leftist women.
Simone de Beauvoir is not an obscure example. Not by a fucking long shot. This chick today is an obscure example. I posted it because it is current.oh come on, you're taking a totally obscure example and trying to pass it off as representative to the entire group of feminists as a whole. Do you think most feminists think being a stay at home mom should be illegal? I don't.
I would say you seem to have an issues with all feminists,but you already confirmed it. I don't really wish to have this argument with anyone, and I'll just agree to disagree on the next point.
You make several good points, but they are irrelevant here. She isn't talking about single parent families. She's explicitly discussing two parent families. And she isn't making a argument about household poverty. Her economic argument is that women working help equalize the economic stats between men and women.while ridiculous i get where she's coming from
surely there's people who's husbands die or whatever tragically and that's horrible
the vast majority of single mom households, however, are pure and simple the result of consistent, absurd, poor decision making
nobody likes to pt that out, but i mean.....
i doesn't take an intellectual giant to realize having a kid you can't afford isn't a wise choice especially when other options are available, however I feel like many women that have no education or true skills only find a role/importance in life through motherhood.
What other explanation is there for poor people have MULTIPLE kids? first kid, understandable.
Simone de Beauvoir is not an obscure example. Not by a fucking long shot. This chick today is an obscure example. I posted it because it is current.
Tell me how these words from one of modern feminism's greatest influences differs from the article I posted: ""No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one."
And de Beauvoir's use of "authorized" shows she is in tune with de Marquand not only in thinking she knows best for other women, but also that she is willing to enforce it authoritatively.
And no, I don't have issues with all feminists. There are several feminists I admire greatly. But modern feminism is in large part a perversion of feminism, that consistently puts the interests of women behind the agenda of the Left. Where is the feminist outcry over the disgusting comments made about Melania Trump? How feminist is it to value a woman based entirely on your opinion of her husband? Hypocrites.
i only agree w/ that argument in that i completely disagree w/ the antiquated, sexist policy of AlimonyYou make several good points, but they are irrelevant here. She isn't talking about single parent families. She's explicitly discussing two parent families. And she isn't making a argument about household poverty. Her economic argument is that women working help equalize the economic stats between men and women.
Okay, I'm not talking about Simone de Beauvoir. I'm talking about the nobody that made the statement that you started a thread about.
Yes, some nobody. And you treated her opinion as if it is unique and not representative of feminism. And so I quote the author of The Second Sex, an essential tome in the feminist canon. And she says the same thing.
The quote is from Friedan's A Dialogue with Simon e De Beauvoir as published in her collected works. I read it long ago in a first year women's studies class. Friedan to her credit took issue with de Beauvoir on this point, iirc, and I think I do.
What does it mean to make a statement you have to make? You make statements because you believe them. You state tour goals in hope of achieving them. Why talk about the destruction of female choice if you are fighting for female choice? And the answer to that question is that far too many feminists are fighting for female choice so long as women choose what the feminists deem best.
De Beauvoir hated the family, which I find absurd. And now this nincompoop today is saying the same things. Who is going to watch kids if the parents don't? Some day care center or nanny, most likely a woman. And that's fine in her eyes, but for a mother to stay home and raise her own children is something she thinks should be prohibited by law. It's very stupid, and should be easy for anyone to condemn.