It actually speaks volumes that Jones refused to fight DC clean

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  1. Venom

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    Yes, he actually likely is. Full stop.

    He is a wrestler by trade dammit, Gregoire of course his cardio is in top shape, 38 or not. Chin is largely genetic. His strength I kinda understated it, but that's not strength I've never seen before, amazing recovery....what do you mean. Ability to recover from knockdowns? That's largely genetic like I said. Or you mean recover between fights? He doesn't have especially amazing recovery.
     
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    Yes, its all genetics, true and only with Jones its steroids.
     
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    You have to take it case by case. You're careful not to claim anything however deep down you wanna say...


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    What a great fucking post, I always thought Jones was really good at everything but wasnt a master at really anything and was wondering where he got the confidence to throw with Buakaw like confidence, go for standing submissions like hes marcelo fucking garcia etc etc. The only fight where his confidence felt really hindered was OSP , and for good reason it seems looking at it in hindsight.
     
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    We will never know if a clean Jones would beat DC simply because a clean Jones DOESNT EXIST. Im almost 100% sure we NEVER saw a clean Jon Jones. If he was taking PEDs when he was the most scrutinized fighter in the card and he knew he was being tested, its almost impossible to think that he wasnt taking from the beginning when he wasnt scrutinized even close to that level.

    Everything that has been said about Jon Jones as a fighter just doesnt exist, its like his entire career could be erased from any comparison or mention of skill. Its not just about this fight, everything we ever thought about Jon Jones as a fighter is simply INVALID now. Its not even sad because its not even a downfall, understand it is not a downfall, every win he had its just invalid, its not even sad because nothing ever rose in the first place.

    We would never know if a clean Jones would beat DC because a fighter who was clean named Jon Jones just never existed. We would never know anything close to that scenario because a fighter named Jon Jones who stepped into fighting competition... it just never existed in this world
     
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    Even with mounting evidence, Jones will never apologize or acknowledge he cheated. He is truly crud
     
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    Jones is mentally weak and always has been. He beat himself against Hamill. I seriously think he has sociopathic leanings.
     
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    He must have spent a lot of dough too on a program that he thought could beat USADA because obviously he knew they were gonna be up his ass. And he did beat a bunch of them, right? But they got him. We can speculate whether or not Bones could beat DC clean or not but Bones clearly didn't think that he had a reasonable chance. Otherwise he wouldn't have risked everything like this. Would have been way better to lose a fight than to be suspended for 4 years. But he might somehow get soft treatment again, let's see.
     
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    It's pretty pathetic that jones has to do this shit just to either get a physical edge or at least convince himself that he can win. Guys like lawler win some and lose some, but at least they can pass a drug test and fight a good fight. Jones has got some major mental issues that might get worse as he sinks even lower.
     
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    This
     
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    Hes clearly a bit sociopathic
    His ego simply couldnt handle a loss hence why he cheated
    Hes like those guys who cant handle rejection so they use roofies to rape chicks
     

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