It actually speaks volumes that Jones refused to fight DC clean | Page 3

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  1. Dana_is_your_GOD Platinum Chram deal with it

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    Hi Jon
     
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    Exactly this. Jones took the risk, and it was worth it to him, because he'd have rather beaten his #1 rival, and the one guy that could really get under his skin, then to fight him clean, and lose to him. After all the trash talk, and all the stuff he said to DC, and the things DC said to him, you think DC crying was bad? Jones would've gone on a week long bender, drive drunk as hell, possibly hurt someone, or himself, and I honestly think he would commit suicide, or contemplate it deeply, and post some crazy things on his social media, or just not tell anyone, and his wife might find him on the bathroom floor, OD'd off pills, or maybe has to get rushed to the ER with how much coke he would probably be doing.

    I truly don't think Jon could handle losing to DC, of all people. His mentality was so so so set on winning, and "knowing" he'd win, of course, now we know it's because he had the aid of PEDs, that he might suffer a nervous breakdown, and do something crazy, or possibly go crazy for a period of time. Maybe go into a long long depression, and completely leave the sport, like George Foreman when he lost to Ali.

    I know, this might sound like crazy talk, but this is the way I could see it turning out if Jon lost to DC that night.
     
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  3. KORMAN The Dominator & Killashaw

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    This is a message board, where we discuss an array of topics pertaining to the UFC, and it's fighters. If you can't deal with that, that's your problem.
     
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    Daniel Cormier is the specimen.

    No special genetics, not fast, not incredibly strong, not very big.

    Fight IQ and putting shit together. Elite!!!!
     
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  5. ChachiKiller Brown Belt

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    He was clean then he wasn't just before the fight. I bet he got close and panicked that he could not win without them. This speaks of a dependence because he knows what they can do for him. If he knows then he has experience. He has pretty much been the same performer for a while. He came on the scene like this as a shooting star. It makes sense that he probably used the whole time.

    At this point, just like in a court room, all his accolades must be stricken from the record. He no longer exists as an MMA icon. To his credit, he probably never should have been there and has wealth to last the rest of his days for being a cheat. If Tyson can eat an ear and 20 years later be beloved, Jones has a chance. Tyson earned it in a sport that kept things level and JBJ made his fame with a needle. What a shame. So many people like his opponents were cheated of chances to live in comfort and so many fans cheated of believing they were really watching a great. All because of a fractured and insecure soul. He is the GOAT of terrible stories of sports.
     
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    Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night.
     
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    I highly disagree with the, not very strong part. Yes, a large part of his dominant wrestling, and rag doll throws of guys like Barnett, and Hendo is technique, and a knowledge of human physics, but just because you know how to toss guys like Barnett, and Hendo, doesn't mean you can.

    I'd put his strength right up there with a prime Rampage, and combined with his technique, I think he's even stronger, and more explosive a grappler, and for a guy his size, he has very nimble, and fleet feet. Don't let the LHW version of DC, where he's usually walking his opponent down, fool you. watch his HW fights, and realize that a guy that's carrying good amount of excess fat is moving around the cage like a cat, and his upper body movement is incredibly quick.

    And he might have the strongest core in LHW history.
     
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    I have a feeling Shawn did a lot of this sort of thing.
     
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    DC hit the nail on the head. Bones most likely fought clean once, didn't like how it felt and went back to his old ways
     
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    Oh yeah I had second thoughts about that. Cormier does seem really strong.
     
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    The difference is that he would be under added scrutiny for this fight and he still cheated.


    Jon was literally more confident in beating USADA than he was in beating DC. That says a lot.
     
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    He should be

    Weight shouldn't come in to it always

    Mma history was built on open weight

    Gsp 20 lbs lighter vs bisping I don't think will affect outcome of fight

    Gsp will power double bisping all day and win a UD
     
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    He obviously didn't think he could win clean or he wouldn't have taken the huge risk of trying to get past USADA. He had to know one more positive test would basically end his career.
     
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    Jones' entire career is an asterisk, he's never fought clean. Ban him for life and I hope DC sues the living shit out of him.
     
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    DC is a fucking beast and I hope he leaves LHW in the dust, eats his chicken, and goes HW and tosses fools.
     
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    Jones is a feeble minded head case who took something for every fight he's ever had. A true pretender who never had the fortitude and self belief needed to be a true champion. Good riddance mental midget.
     
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    I thought it was all skill until USADA came along. A genetic freak. Boy was I wrong.
     
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    I would say it is reasonable to assume he was on PED's from the very start of his career.
     
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    He is not only one, but yes, you have the point.
     
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    Yes, 40years old Olimpian with insane cardio for such difficult weight-cutting and granite chin, amasing recovery and inhuman strenght - yes, he is likely clean.:)
     
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