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Discussion in 'Sports Bar' started by Seiryoku Zenyo, May 27, 2017.
GSW couldn't match Cavs intensity coming out of the gates.
also left (with the rest of his team staying intact) and his team only won 2 less games
lebron left (along with an old shaq leaving) and his team won 42 less games
he got swept in the finals, end of story
good enough to make it there, good enough to at least win a game (i.e. this year and iverson's sixers)
he made it to the finals with a shit team.
jordan got swept in round 1 three times. Is that supposed to be better? Couldn't even make it to round 2 for the majority of the 80s
lebron made it to how many finals first time on the Cavs?
1 and got swept and never made it in the years preceding nor after
he then joined two other all stars and still lost the first one to Dirk/JJ f'n barea/jason terry.......
once jordan got a remotely competent player he won rings and never stopped. that being said he still won two titles when Pipp wasn't named an all star. rare feat
once lebron got a competent player he hasn't not made the finals.....even without competent players he still made the finals while jordan was getting swept year after year.
even with a competent player jordan still lost before the finals to the pistons before they got old and then to the magic- which forced the bulls gm to bring in rodman and others to substantially upgrade the team.
lebron can also guard the opposing teams best player regardless of size. Pippen usually guarded the other teams best player. Jordan tried it game 1 against Magic Johnson in 1991 and magic had by far his best game of the series, so they switched pippen and big shocker he was more effective
lebron won his first title in his 8th season, jordan in his seventh
jordan may have been swept early on, but he made the yoffs every season he played. in his second year they got swept but he put up 44/6/6 essentially so not exactly his fault
lebron MISSED THE YOFFS IN THE EASTERN CONFERENCE his first two years
edit: every season on the bulls, not the wiz. my bad
so when lebron was 18 and 19 years old, he missed the playoffs. Oh no!
also, for 3 straight final games, MJ was held to 33% shooting and got locked down by a 6'4" point guard.
lol at Lebron being held in check by anyone that little on a consistent basis. Good thing Payton didn't guard MJ in games 1,2, and 3...
might wanna peep bron's 07 finals stats before you get too crazy
worst 'star' performance in NBA finals history
In a series MJ still won MVP, still won the title.. while Payton is arguably one of the NBA's best all-time defenders -and he still couldn't stop MJ lmao
Great argument. Does not reek of absolute rage, desperation, or total lack of basketball knowledge at all on your end
Mcmillan/Hawkins mostly guarded MJ thru game 1-3. Only in game 4-6 did Payton guard MJ full time. George Karl fucked up
3-5 in the finals....wouldnt surprise me if he tries to join the warriors to win some rings now
Durant is the third straight player that Lebron was guarding to win Finals MVP.
Jason the Jet Terry destroyed him as well but Dirk was a little better so deserved that Finals MVP.
Hardenesque in his defense is Lebron, Joe.
Lebron James is a spectacular player. To make it to the NBA Finals 7 years in a row is amazing. However he has currently won 3 out of 7. Michael Jordan won 6 out of 6. The comparisons need to stop. Lebron can be recognized as a great player without saying he is better than Jordan. They are different players. They have different strengths. When it comes to being a leader, a true MVP when Michael Jordan was at the top of his game he never failed to help his team win the big one. He never lost an NBA Final. He never even went to a Game 7. Currently he has twice as many as Lebron. Even if Lebron James won 7 NBA championships it is hard to compare him to a player who was undefeated in the NBA Finals not to mention all of the other impressive accomplishments of Jordan.
Lebron has been to eight NBA finals and he has won 3 rings. If he were to finish his career with 7 rings, that means he would have made it to the finals 12 times (at least). How is that less impressive than Jordan going 6/6? Lebron would literally double the amount of Finals appearances as Jordan. Last time i checked, 7 gold medals + 5 silver medals is more impressive than 6 gold + 0 silver, no?
(BTW i'm a big MJ and Bulls fan- if anything, im biased for Jordan, not Lebron)
Oh damn. I forgot the time that the Cavs got swept by the Spurs. You're right. He's been to 7 in a row but actually is 3 out of 8 in the NBA Finals. If he does win 7 championships that is indeed impressive.
He's got several years left but it's going to be tough.
MJ would have been just fine if Glove guarded him the whole series, stop yourself.
Juice is now 18-27 in the Finals
Let me know when Jordan averages -6 for the Finals TWICE and has average GmScs of 10.6 and 13.6. Since you Brontards LOVE advanced stats and all.
To be fair, LBJ had to put together All Star teams to do it in the weakest conference while MJ did it twice as the only All Star on his team in by far the tougher conference -including shortening one of the NBA's greatest dynasty's ever in the Bad Boy Pistons to do it.
There are some asterisks next to how many straight LBJ has made, regardless of how many people want to accept it or not.