Exmo checking in here too. Fuck that mormon cult and the JW cult and all the other life ruining cults out there.Former Mormon cult member checking in. Tried Catholic cult for awhile too.
Exmo checking in here too. Fuck that mormon cult and the JW cult and all the other life ruining cults out there.Former Mormon cult member checking in. Tried Catholic cult for awhile too.
Former Mormon cult member checking in. Tried Catholic cult for awhile too.
And how do you do that? Maybe another genocide? Like the 20th century need another genocide right?
Actually nah. I think if we survive long enough (i.e. no ELE or WW3) we'll outgorw religion. It might take time, of course, but shit's on a skid as is. With scientific advancements shitting down the throat of every religious notion on almost daily basis, religion is playing catch-up to rationalize all of it, but it can only go that far - once we start merging with machines, once we start body modding for real, extending lives well past the notional limits etc. - there's nothing religions (abrahamic ones anyways) can do to retain relevance they currently have. They may - and, frankly, should - survive as sources of solace, wisdom and morality for some people, but their gods will finally die on a grand scale...
Blood transfusions. JW's will not receive blood transfusions.
This is an interesting topic because I work in Compliance at a hospital and JWs are known to abandon this tenet in life or death situations. And there will be serious cognitive dissonance for any clinician (doctor, nurse, etc) who is a fellow JW observing this happening; that would mean excommunication. This becomes an issue if the patient is in a coma where the doctor will look to a family member, friend, or even a clergy (someone aligned with the patient's beliefs) and You might have some pious JW who'd let the patient die believing, "He wouldn't have wanted that". The coercion is strong.
Good on you for seeing it and walking away from it.
Actually nah. I think if we survive long enough (i.e. no ELE or WW3) we'll outgorw religion. It might take time, of course, but shit's on a skid as is. With scientific advancements shitting down the throat of every religious notion on almost daily basis, religion is playing catch-up to rationalize all of it, but it can only go that far - once we start merging with machines, once we start body modding for real, extending lives well past the notional limits etc. - there's nothing religions (abrahamic ones anyways) can do to retain relevance they currently have. They may - and, frankly, should - survive as sources of solace, wisdom and morality for some people, but their gods will finally die on a grand scale...
Blood transfusions. JW's will not receive blood transfusions.
This is an interesting topic because I work in Compliance at a hospital and JWs are known to abandon this tenet in life or death situations. And there will be serious cognitive dissonance for any clinician (doctor, nurse, etc) who is a fellow JW observing this happening; that would mean excommunication. This becomes an issue if the patient is in a coma where the doctor will look to a family member, friend, or even a clergy (someone aligned with the patient's beliefs) and You might have some pious JW who'd let the patient die believing, "He wouldn't have wanted that". The coercion is strong.
Good on you for seeing it and walking away from it.
What made you start thinking for yourself, initially ?
I agree with you on it seems inevitable, but as for wisdom morality and rationality.. Well there is no evidence we have any capacity for any of this without an underlying struture.. Technology is not an underlying structure.
Thanks for your reply. It's interesting that in a way made you made your own intervention.I had stopped attending mostly due out of laziness and "took a break". The religion is very demanding and you live it 24/7. I had moved from out of state and had not yet picked a congregation. That anonymity allowed me to take time off which turned in to a few years. After those few years I made an attempt to go back. When you are "in" you just blindly follow orders no matter how ridiculous. Taking a "break" then going back really opened my eyes to the control they try to exert. Fast forward a few more years and I began to draw my own conclusions about God and the bible.
It sounds like Jehovah Witnesses are Amish, but without being farmers and pretending like technology doesn’t exist.
I don’t know, I really don’t know much about the Amish other than what Weird Al told me, and from what I’ve seen in movies like Kingpin, For Richer or Poorer, and Witness.
did you get baptized?Some cults are more "culty" than others but growing up as a Jehovah's Witness, I now realize that I grew up in a cult.
The Amish are rather strange. They don't use electricity but are forced to to use lights on their buggys on the roads when it's dark. They will use sawmills powered by water or diesel engines that don't use electricity. They wrap a rope around a pulley and use a horse to start the diesel engine. They hire people to drive them around.