How to Solve the Champion Duck Syndrome

[EGarrett]

aka: the Mighty Mouse Johnson, aka the Tyrone Woodley, etc...

CHampions want to hold onto the belt as long as they can so once they see a threat or bad stylistic matchup or an easier fight elsewhere they begin displaying symptoms of the "champion duck syndrome".

I say let's get rid of champions holding the belt and just have the 2 best guys available fight for the belt every so often. Just like what happens in every other sport.

The previous champ gets first right of refusal to fight for the belt the next time its scheduled to be up and if they cant make it they wait until the next time its up.

if DJ doesnt want to fight TJ then dillashaw can fight cejudo for the title.

in other words you're only champion the night you win the belt up to the night its up for grabs again.

I think this will eliminate the bullshit.

In this case, make it a trophy instead of a belt. The symbolism is that you have to kill someone in order to take their belt.

 

[Johnny Rosa]

The UFC always has had weak knees when it comes to money. They act tough against Tony and Yair but not against Diaz or Conor. In the long run this isn't the best strategy as the integrity of the sport is on the line. I remember the time when it was always at top 3 contender who got the shot and not all this randomness even though it seems a bit better now that Bisping and Conor don't have belts.

 

[Tuf_guy]

aka: the Mighty Mouse Johnson, aka the Tyrone Woodley, etc...

CHampions want to hold onto the belt as long as they can so once they see a threat or bad stylistic matchup or an easier fight elsewhere they begin displaying symptoms of the "champion duck syndrome".

I say let's get rid of champions holding the belt and just have the 2 best guys available fight for the belt every so often. Just like what happens in every other sport.

The previous champ gets first right of refusal to fight for the belt the next time its scheduled to be up and if they cant make it they wait until the next time its up.

if DJ doesnt want to fight TJ then dillashaw can fight cejudo for the title.

in other words you're only champion the night you win the belt up to the night its up for grabs again.

I think this will eliminate the bullshit.

Who did Woodley duck as champion? And there is no Tyrone in the UFC that I know of.

 

[EGarrett]

Being a UFC champion means getting paid. Is it shocking that champs want to take easy matchups or fights outside their weight class?
The vast majority of fighters make peanuts. Pay the fighters more and maybe you’ll get less ducking

 

[JeffDredd]

Who did Woodley duck as champion? And there is no Tyrone in the UFC that I know of.

Thinking isn't a strong suit itt.

 

[skysolo]

aka: the Mighty Mouse Johnson, aka the Tyrone Woodley, etc...

CHampions want to hold onto the belt as long as they can so once they see a threat or bad stylistic matchup or an easier fight elsewhere they begin displaying symptoms of the "champion duck syndrome".

I say let's get rid of champions holding the belt and just have the 2 best guys available fight for the belt every so often. Just like what happens in every other sport.

The previous champ gets first right of refusal to fight for the belt the next time its scheduled to be up and if they cant make it they wait until the next time its up.

if DJ doesnt want to fight TJ then dillashaw can fight cejudo for the title.

in other words you're only champion the night you win the belt up to the night its up for grabs again.

I think this will eliminate the bullshit.

This "bullshit" is about money. Nothing else. It is not about "holding onto a belt".

Other sports don't have negotiate pay every time they play.

Besides, the UFC "duck" fights all the time.

Bader was the number one contender but the UFC gave Gustafsson the title shot.
Dillashaw was number one contender but Garbrandt got the title shot.
Any number of fighters were miles ahead of Mcgregor but he fought for the LW title instead.

 

[skysolo]

The best way to solve his issue would be to remind fighters that the belt belongs to the UFC. It isn’t the champion’s belt, it’s the UFC’s. If you don’t want to fight the guy the UFC views as the next challenger, fine. You’re stripped of the belt. It isn’t the champion’s call on if a guy has “earned” a shot, it’s the UFC’s. Could you imagine an NFL Super Bowl team talking about refusing to play the other team because they were a 9-7 wildcard team? Fuck no. It’s utterly ridiculous.

Again, this is about money not belts.

 

[skysolo]

Champions have to take care of their bodies more so than other fighters. If there's a title defense scheduled and they get injured, 20% of their purse should be given to the contender already. If there's no injury and they declined to fight the no.1, strip them of their belt asap, give it to the no.1 contender and put the former champ at the back of the line-around top 12-15.

20% of what purse?

If they are injured, there is no fight and no purse. And who the fuck will sign that contract?

 

[thisISjoel]

I actually love some of the ideas in this thread! Would love to see less bullshitery from "champions".

 

[skysolo]

I actually love some of the ideas in this thread! Would love to see less bullshitery from "champions".

What about the "bullshitery" from the UFC?

 

[skysolo]

when you're champ you have to fight anybody put infront of you that's in your weight class period.

you duck you forfeit.

How would that practically work when the UFC is in the profit business?

Don't tell say because you're a fan, this doesn't matter to you. The UFC would have to put it in place. And it makes no sense.

 

[snackgod]

aka: the Mighty Mouse Johnson, aka the Tyrone Woodley, etc...

CHampions want to hold onto the belt as long as they can so once they see a threat or bad stylistic matchup or an easier fight elsewhere they begin displaying symptoms of the "champion duck syndrome".

I say let's get rid of champions holding the belt and just have the 2 best guys available fight for the belt every so often. Just like what happens in every other sport.

The previous champ gets first right of refusal to fight for the belt the next time its scheduled to be up and if they cant make it they wait until the next time its up.

if DJ doesnt want to fight TJ then dillashaw can fight cejudo for the title.

in other words you're only champion the night you win the belt up to the night its up for grabs again.

I think this will eliminate the bullshit.

funny how you didn't say conor but said Woodley. who is Woodley ducking any way.

 

[snackgod]

Tyrone ducked both covington and rda.

mighty mouse isnt being asked to move up to 135. TJ is moving down to 125. a ducks a duck.

that not true. Woodley fought maia and after that lost out on the gsp fight and has been sidelined with an injury.

he cant duck Colby when Woodley been hurt since he beat maia and thinks he so great

 

[Fluffernutter]

There are 12 weightclasses.

I don't even recall who is the champ in all weightclasses.

 

[YewJan]

I get annoyed with champs not taking the fights the fans want to see too but your examples don't make sense

Who has Woodley ducked? He might bitch and complain about it, but he has fought the number one contenders. I find his schtick annoying too but he hasn't actually ducked anyone. He's asked to, the UFC has said no, and then he's fought the #1 contenders.

Mighty Mouse has fought everyone in his division you can't strip him of the flyweight title for not wanting to fight a bantamweight, if you're doing that, just close the flyweight division and move them all back up to 135. Which tbh, you wouldn't see me too upset about

You’re right about Woodley but I disagree about the MM/TJ situation- he has fought every flyweight actively so stripping him is silly but he isn’t being asked to fight Bantamweight because TJ is saying he will make 125. If he makes 125 then he will be fighting a flyweight.

 

[thisISjoel]

What about the "bullshitery" from the UFC?

Can you provide examples of what you're referring to?

 

[skysolo]

that not true. Woodley fought maia and after that lost out on the gsp fight and has been sidelined with an injury.

he cant duck Colby when Woodley been hurt since he beat maia and thinks he so great

I think he is trying to say that Woodley would have fought Diaz but he wouldn't fight Colvington or dos Anjos.

But he seems to forget 2 things. The money factor: Diaz vs ? is more money than Colvington or dos Anjos.

Second, the UFC was pushing that fight. Woodley can't book himself vs Diaz.

Everyone gets mad at fighters but they are not in charge.

 

[skysolo]

Can you provide examples of what you're referring to?

Bader was the number one contender but the UFC gave Gustafsson the title shot.
Dillashaw was number one contender but Garbrandt got the title shot.
Any number of fighters were miles ahead of Mcgregor but he fought for the LW title instead.

What was the reason these fights were made? It's not because Gustafsson was number one contender. He was just brained by Rumble. Garbrandt had one win against a ranked fighter. Mcgregor had never fought at LW.

 

[Guy LeDouche]

lmao

DJ has defended his OWN division just fine.

Focus on CHUMP champs like McGREGOR, who have NEVER defended their titles instead.

Yeah I agree. Seriously don't get this MM ducking narrative everyone is trying to spin...the guy has 11 title defenses.

 

[teamfox223]

For champions is hard to duck since you pretty much have to defend or you get stripped like Conor.

Tyron doesn't really duck anyone not like his scared or anything but he'll cherry pick money fights first if nothing comes about then he'll take the contender fight.

DJ gets a pass since TJ is not ranked at 125 just because you are the champ doesn't mean you are the number 1 contenders lower weight class but DJ can shut up about money fight since he passed on it.