How can tyron be GOAT Weltwerweight ?

The same reason why Anderson never fought Jones, Shogun etc in his prime I guess lol.



He cherry picked Bisping like how Anderson cherry picked beasts like Forrest, Irvin and Bonnar which impresses you so much
James Irvin confirmed that 4 LHWs (Rashad. Thiago Silva, Vera, Jardine) declined to fight Anderson before Irvin finally manned up and accepted. Anderson wasn’t cherry picking, LHWs were running scared from the GOAT.

Get your facts straight before talking shit idiot.
 
Actually 4 LHWs refused to fight Anderson, as confirmed by James Irvin

So much for cherry picking lol

He didn’t want to fight Jones.

He didn’t want to fight Shogun.

He fought Irvin, Forrest and Bonnar in his prime.

If that isn’t cherry picking then I don’t know what is lol.

Also no one is saying Anderson would beat Jones. But then again that fight didn't even make sense at the time, whereas GSP v Silva did

Think you’d find there was and still is a lot of people who think Anderson would beat Jones. I know, delusional. Weirdly enough the fight never made sense to Anderson fans
 
The cherry picking debate between GSP and Silva is different. Silva moved up to either save cards or try out the LHW division. GSP moved up for a title fight and immediately vacated after beating a "weak" champion.
 
James Irvin confirmed that 4 LHWs (Rashad. Thiago Silva, Vera, Jardine) declined to fight Anderson before Irvin finally manned up and accepted. Anderson wasn’t cherry picking, LHWs were running scared from the GOAT.

Get your facts straight before talking shit idiot.

So 4 LHW not named Jones or Shogun (who he didn’t want to fight) turned him down yet in his prime he fought Irvin, Forrest and Bonnar? Classic cherry picking but you are too biased to see it
 
The cherry picking debate between GSP and Silva is different. Silva moved up to either save cards or try out the LHW division. GSP moved up for a title fight and immediately vacated after beating a "weak" champion.

The “weak champion” who Anderson lost to.

Anderson claimed for years he wanted big fights but whenever Jones or Shogun got mentioned he was never interested. Instead he wanted GSP. Ain’t that cherry picking? Dude flat out said he wanted GSP instead of Jones because it’s an easier fight lol
 
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So 4 LHW not named Jones or Shogun (who he didn’t want to fight) turned him down yet in his prime he fought Irvin, Forrest and Bonnar? Classic cherry picking but you are too biased to see it
What MWs refused to fight GSP ? Lol

Yoel, Whittaker, Luke were all eager to feast on the Canadian. Too bad he vacated the belt due to "colitis"
 
What MWs refused to fight GSP ? Lol

What’s that got to do with anything? Doesn’t change the fact Anderson didn’t want to fight Jones or Shogun

Yoel, Whittaker, Luke were all eager to feast on the Canadian. Too bad he vacated the belt due to "colitis"

Of course they would.

Guys are eager to fight Anderson but Anderson is turning them down
 
So 4 LHW not named Jones or Shogun (who he didn’t want to fight) turned him down yet in his prime he fought Irvin, Forrest and Bonnar? Classic cherry picking but you are too biased to see it
GSP is the GOAT cherry picker and the GOAT ducker.
 
He needs to keep winning, he's probably solidly in the number 2 spot or really close to it. You don't get to GOAT status from one win.
 
The “weak champion” who Anderson to lost to.

Anderson claimed for years he wanted big fights but whenever Jones or Shogun got mentioned he was never interested. Instead he wanted GSP. Ain’t that cherry picking? Dude flat out said he wanted GSP instead of Jones because it’s an easier fight lol
He fought most of these fighters with short notice just to save cards or counter program for the company. I don't think you understand the context of him moving up. DC he fought short notice to save the card, James Irvin was the omg he is moving up free card to fuck with affliction PPV, Bonnar was another short notice since Main event in Brazil fell through. The only person you can claim the UFC cherrypicked for Anderson to look good was the popular Forrest Griffin. He just lost his LHW belt and Anderson was coming off these stinkers where he clowned around. It was affecting PPV sales and they needed someone to move forward to "fight" Anderson.

GSP on the other hand took 4 years off. He came back with a lot of preparation. Look at his WW and MW pictures; there is definitely a difference compared to Anderson just not cutting water weight. He came back and cut the line to fight the "champ" and didn't want to defend. Now he wants to cut to 155 and scalp the champ there. We know damn well he wasn't going to come back unless conditions were perfect for him.

George isn't just a fighter; he is represented by CAA and he has handlers. These handlers spent months continuing this colitis story and booked him interviews, he has well placed pictures on instagram showing his weight loss by posing next to other 155ers on purpose and posing with junk food creating a narrative he is eating but not gaining weight. He is cherrypicking and creating a buzz on social media for that Khabib fight. This is different from Silva just following the company's matchmaking. The only time Silva can be accused of cherrypicking is probably Mcgregor.
 
He fought most of these fighters with short notice just to save cards or counter program for the company. I don't think you understand the context of him moving up. DC he fought short notice to save the card, James Irvin was the omg he is moving up free card to fuck with affliction PPV, Bonnar was another short notice since Main event in Brazil fell through. The only person you can claim the UFC cherrypicked for Anderson to look good was the popular Forrest Griffin. He just lost his LHW belt and Anderson was coming off these stinkers where he clowned around. It was affecting PPV sales and they needed someone to move forward to "fight" Anderson.

GSP on the other hand took 4 years off. He came back with a lot of preparation. Look at his WW and MW pictures; there is definitely a difference compared to Anderson just not cutting water weight. He came back and cut the line to fight the "champ" and didn't want to defend. Now he wants to cut to 155 and scalp the champ there. We know damn well he wasn't going to come back unless conditions were perfect for him.

George isn't just a fighter; he is represented by CAA and he has handlers. These handlers spent months continuing this colitis story and booked him interviews, he has well placed pictures on instagram showing his weight loss by posing next to other 155ers on purpose and posing with junk food creating a narrative he is eating but not gaining weight. He is cherrypicking and creating a buzz on social media for that Khabib fight. This is different from Silva just following the company's matchmaking. The only time Silva can be accused of cherrypicking is probably Mcgregor.

He moved up to save cards/help the company but always spoke about wanting big fights. He fought at LHW a few times at the point where he was wanting this fights but absolutely didn’t want Jones or Shogun.

Again, at the same time he’s calling out GSP.

Is that not cherry picking?

Yes he’s cherry picking right now with Conor while turning down guys like Romero and Adesanya but he’s been doing it for awhile.

He didn’t want to fight Chris Weidman. Instead he wanted Cung Le or Rich Franklin for the 100th time. Thankfully he didn’t get his way but he’s careful with certain fights
 
Just keep defending the belt against every viable contender, thas what Georges did.

If George wont fight you, you must surpass his legacy.
 
who does Woodley have to beat to become the greatest Welterweight of all time in your opinion. marquardt is gone for good and is pretty abysmal without roids. Rory is broken and battered. not the same anymore. Shields beat a green Woodley. Does not stand a chance post usada. none of them do for the matter. Does he have to beat Colby and usman to cement himself? or Gsp?
Lol

He would have to defend his belt at least 6 more times. GSP has 9 and most of them where dominate unlike Woodley's.

And even if he did that he still wouldn't be the GOAT because GSP avenged both his losses.

There are levels to this and GSP is just so far above everyone else in terms if legacy it's ridiculous.

You have to be dumb as hell to think 1 more opponent would cement Woodley as GOAT.
 
He moved up to save cards/help the company but always spoke about wanting big fights. He fought at LHW a few times at the point where he was wanting this fights but absolutely didn’t want Jones or Shogun.

Again, at the same time he’s calling out GSP.

Is that not cherry picking?
It is all about the context and motive. He is moving up to save cards instead of trying to cherrypick a title for his legacy. Who fights prepared DC on short notice? At least you know Silva has a price tag and will whore himself out for a beating. GSP will not budge at all.

As early as 2009, he already gave interviews stating although I moved up but I have no interest in the LHW belt and Lyoto is in 205.
After his Bonnar win, I believe his official statement regarding Shogun and GSP at that time was come to my division to fight.

GSP is doing something totally different. He doesn't want to fight at all unless things go perfect his way. He will not fight unless it is for a title holder of his choosing. He will not face a challenger and he will not defend the belt. GSP will get those things; his management CAA isn't just bullshit mma agents. As far as I am concerned; GSP is retired and that choosing champs to take the belt from is silly. He just wants to do it to end up in record books. In the end that is all that matters to the general public; not the context of how he got the belts.
 
I don't think Tyrone could ever beat GSP in terms of title defenses, he is 36 already and the level of competition is just too high.

The only way to enter that GOAT talk would be to actually beat GSP, which could totally happen if the latter weren't ducking him.
How would beating a passed his prime, 2 acl injuries GSP cement him as the GOAT? That has to be the dumbest thing I have read today.

The fact there is even a thread debating Woodley as the GOAT just shows how MMA fans or probably casuals in yours and OP's case have the memory
of a gold fish.

Let Tyron defend his belt 9 times in a dominate fasion, unlike his first title defenses and avenge his losses, then we'll talk.
 
As another said, he needs more defenses than Gsp. Even then its not a lock. Georges didn’t backpeddle to the fence for 90% of his title fights, while looking scared to engage.
L0l tyron would starch prime GSP. Tyron would fuck up Penn, Hughes, Shields, Kos, Alves. Tyron is already the goat ww.
 
Actually 4 LHWs refused to fight Anderson, as confirmed by James Irvin

So much for cherry picking lol

Also no one is saying Anderson would beat Jones. But then again that fight didn't even make sense at the time, whereas GSP v Silva did
How did Anderson Jones not make sense?
Anderson already had some LHW fights, he should have went for the title.

Imagine if gsp went to MW and fought Hendricks and some others and ducked Bisping?

There would be all kinds of hate.

2 things you need to know
First Gsp said he wasn’t done at WW cementing his legacy, and Anderson could cut to 70 and challenge for the belt if he really wanted to fight him. Anderson declined and wanted it at a higher weight
Second, Dana had finally talked GSP into fighting Anderson for the Mw belt,he was cage side for the MAia fight.
Dana took that deal off the table
 

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