see what I mean, he's pretty consistent with that argument. Probably never will get him to see the truth. Norton beating a still vital Ali is greater than anything McCall kayoing Lewis.
that's what I don't get, did manny's last fight do that badly?
A-ha!
Boy does that suck for Vargas. Looks like Cheese was right if this is true. So what does this mean? Are they allowed to shop a new network for this particular fight?
Well now that's a big difference if they aren't dropping him from his contract. They're making a risky move if they want to keep him. Wonder what the lawyers are saying.
Ahhhh gotcha, I was like, I know cheese likes zab and all, but you can't compare him to Lewis/Ali
I agree with your point but there definitely is a big gap between them. McCall's win was pretty flukey and pre-prime Lewis.
I think people are interested, just not ppv interested.
Pac is a PPV fighter and has been for over a decade. It means something that a guy who could make respectable numbers fighting David Diaz is now getting dropped by HBO.
I don't think Norton is as great as some people do but comparing him to McCall? I just don't agree. McCall was just a tough guy that happened to be signed with King during Tyson's time in jail. He's more Bruce Seldon than Ken Norton. I don't even think he's as good as Rahman.
McCall actually had some fairly respectable wins.
both were great natural athletes that's for sure. Norton had the best physique in heavyweight history maybe, along with Mike Weaver. neither guy fulfilled their potential either. Norton admits that he never gave boxing his all. Both kind of, well, not unstable,but not very strong mentally. McCall showing it in the second Lewis fight and Norton showed it by being spooked by anyone with any power. McCall insists that he gave Tyson hell in sparring and maybe he did, problem with sparring partners is that sometimes they never can get past the mentality of a hired hand. Norton had better accomplishments, he beat Ali once and gave him hell two more times, he fought tooth and nail with a young Holmes, he beat Bobick, Quarry and fought most of the best of the era. There was some talk that he shouldn't have been placed in the hall of fame because of his lack of success outside of ali.
