GSP- interesting stats

[UJustGotChaeld]

The quality of the division increased rapidly in recent years, I think if GSP in his prime was to come around now he'd be top 10 but nowhere near the consistant champ he was.

Who are all these quality guys? Condit who GSP easily beat is top 5 and arguably should be champ. WB who arguably could be champ, who said he thinks GSP would be MW champ and beat Bisping if they fought?

This isn't MW and LHW, there is no one at WW who has shown they can hang with prime GSP.

 

[IntelligenceQuo]

Yep.

This is Why Gsp will always be the undisputed GOAT over Anderson/Jones

You look at the people Jones and Anderson fought, and their opponents hardly ever had long winning streaks coming into their fights

And especially in Jones case, Jones hardly ever beat anyone in their PRIME

Jones has yet to ever decisively even beat anyone his size

Heck, ONLY 2 of Jones opponents even had winning streaks of more then 3 coming into their fights with Jones lol

You look at the winning percentages of Jones opponents and its terrible

Jones is soooo over rated its not even funny


Statistically Conor has beaten far superior opponents who have far higher winning percentages


Conor and Gsp have that in common.

Conor and Gsp beat legit opponents who are/were at the absolute pinnacle of their primes

Conor was the one who ended Aldo's streak.

Conor is one of only 2 fighters to ever smash Mendes and smashed Mendes 2.0.

Conor smashed Alvarez who was 28-4 and Alvarez was off a winning streak at LW where he had taken out Chandler, Pettis, Melendes, RDA etc.

As far as im concerned Gsp and and Conor are the ONLY REAL GOATS of MMA (Fedor too)

Anderson, Jones, and Mini-Mouse are insanely over rated hype jobs

How do those cloner nuts taste?

 

[greenstone]

Most fighters don't have lower ranked opponents to help their streak after a title shot. Usually they only verse top five guys. They're just versing better comp more consistently.

Most guys are at the tail end of their career too. So decline comes into play with recent losses aswell.

I agree with this... the UFC recipe seems to be build up a contender, challenge for title, and then win or lose you will now be facing the next row of top contenders either as the champ or as a title shot eliminator fight... UNLESS you are popular enough to warrant another relatively easy fight to build you up for another shot at the belt.

I'd be interested to see a similar list of challengers vs. other dominant champs.

 

[Milgrim]

True, but keep in mind that they beat tough contenders on the way up too.

True. It's hard to get to the top ... even if it's harder to stay there.

 

[Metal_Daze]

especially the Hendirx fight,
GSP tactic was genius, break Hendrix hands with his face,
Hendrix lost confidence in his hands after beating the shit out of him for 5 rounds

You're absolutely right. Like all his numerous Montreal fights (4), it was a complete steal. GSP paid all the judges, refs and commission like he did to "beat" Diaz. You know Commission guys: they have absolute power.

So they took their power to Las Vegas, USA and used it to corrupt the judges who were officiating UFC 67 because, just like every other GSP gifted decision, it happened in Vegas, not Montreal. All his numerous Vegas fights (3) were complete steals too: GSP had to be protected from Penn by being allowed to "grease" and we all know none of the TD landed on Alves did any damage at UFC 100.

Not only was he never any good, he was never my friend, either...

 

[The Great Macsby]

Yep.

This is Why Gsp will always be the undisputed GOAT over Anderson/Jones

You look at the people Jones and Anderson fought, and their opponents hardly ever had long winning streaks coming into their fights

And especially in Jones case, Jones hardly ever beat anyone in their PRIME

Jones has yet to ever decisively even beat anyone his size

Heck, ONLY 2 of Jones opponents even had winning streaks of more then 3 coming into their fights with Jones lol

You look at the winning percentages of Jones opponents and its terrible

Jones is soooo over rated its not even funny


Statistically Conor has beaten far superior opponents who have far higher winning percentages


Conor and Gsp have that in common.

Conor and Gsp beat legit opponents who are/were at the absolute pinnacle of their primes

Conor was the one who ended Aldo's streak.

Conor is one of only 2 fighters to ever smash Mendes and smashed Mendes 2.0.

Conor smashed Alvarez who was 28-4 and Alvarez was off a winning streak at LW where he had taken out Chandler, Pettis, Melendes, RDA etc.

As far as im concerned Gsp and and Conor are the ONLY REAL GOATS of MMA (Fedor too)

Anderson, Jones, and Mini-Mouse are insanely over rated hype jobs

'tis beautiful!!!

 

[Sparkie]

GSP stole souls

hahaha


i like the humour here

 

[ProteinFarts]

Hendricks was never the same after the beating GSP gave him.

Thoughts?

Realized even a boatload of drugs couldn't put him over the top. All downhill from there. Pip.

 

[SkillsPayTheBills]

Yo, lhw was the "premier" division before Jones signed up.

LHW has NEVER been a "premier" division...it's always been the celebrity division built on hype "bu but their big power"...yeah...also much less skilled and much less cordinated

Most of Jones opponents didnt even have win streaks of more then 2 to get their title shots

LHW has ALWAYS BEEN piss poor

Especially when Jones came up, as everyone else was already past their prime

Notice how the ONLY other young prospect to come up along side Jones in Gus beat his ass

Now imagine if there were more Gus like fighters from Europe? Jones never would've been top 5 then

LHW has one of the shallowest talent pools of MMA

Jones is lucky

Rockhold: "came along at the rIght place, right time, and beat nothing but old Brazilian legends"

Spot on about Jones

 

[SkillsPayTheBills]

This. I think you'd find similar stats for most champs in deep divisions. Look at the people Conor has faced and how they have done after. Likewise with Bones and Anderson.

Derp

Conor's opponents have an absurd winning percentage post Conor

Poirier was on a massive streak after Conor

Look at Holloway

This just proves Conor is legit beating the best there is at their best

Everyone Conor dismantles and outclasses goes and beats everyone else.

Jones statistically has fought the weakest competiton (same goes for Anderson)

Statistically Conor and Gsp have beaten the best opposition

 

[sherdoug420]

GSP era was one of the best in UFC history.

 

[Turf Skirmish]

I wouldnt put hendricks on there as a feather in his cap. Georges got the living shit kicked out of him and never came back after that fight.

GSP absolutely, 100% did NOT get the living shit kicked out of him. Not even close! Neither fighter landed anything particularly damaging. Again, stop acting like Hendricks smashed him like Sonnen did to Silva in the first fight. It was very close, and no one got the shit kicked out of them. And don’t even think of posting the post-fight pic like it actually means anything. We all know GSP bruises like a peach.

 

[bigeastgi43]

gsp fought guys at their best

Well these stats don't show it. But tbh, if you look at other long reigning champs, you would probably see the same.

 

[WinZip]

Cool stats. Thanks TS.

War GSP!

 

[bigeastgi43]

Hendricks was never the same after the beating GSP gave him.

Thoughts?

He was technically better since he won the ww strap.

 

[hot carl]

Right. You have to be on a pretty good streak to get a title shot. Once you get it, win or lose, you are going to be fighting top ranked fighters.

like when diaz got two of them?

or like bisping?

or sinosic?

the myth that ufc gives title fights to the most deserving has been debunked.

 

[MrCleverName]

I think GSP was so dominant, that WW's viewed challenging GSP as a form of title among WW's.

Besides Hendricks how many even tried to win?? Maybe Shields with his eye pokes, even he was content on making it to a deciaion, as if losing a decision to GSP was the highest achievement in the sport, and there was no where to go from there. They joined the elite, and gave them a sense of pride that they were better than others.

Well, if you believe Hendricks, he wasn't giving it his all. My guess is they all believed they could be the guy to dethrone him, until they actually got in the cage. Once the first takedown happens, their confidence goes out the window. Obvious exception would be Diaz, but he's a little crazy. Condit also never stopped trying, but I think he knew it was over.

 

[MrCleverName]

Its about the motivation. As a fighter you pursue a dream about being champ one day. If you are the lucky one and work your ass off ever day then you might end up with the title fight, the fight you dream about your whole fighting career. And then GSP easily 50-45 you and you realize you never become a champ while GSP is the champ which might be throughout your whole career. And the motivation naturally goes away...
+ USADA happened (Hendricks).

This. I remember reading about Koscheck's coaches telling him in training how well he was doing and he would just say it's not good enough for Georges.

 

[Milgrim]

like when diaz got two of them?

or like bisping?

or sinosic?

the myth that ufc gives title fights to the most deserving has been debunked.

 

[Maori]

This. I think you'd find similar stats for most champs in deep divisions. Look at the people Conor has faced and how they have done after. Likewise with Bones and Anderson.

The people connor fought are doing extremely well, one of them just won a title