Great KARATE kyokushinkai

[a guy]

I often feel like when you see these kinds of situations, whats really going on is that the fighter is just so much better than his pool of competition that he hasn't really been tested yet. A plan to train every thing is basically a plan to train no thing; all else being equal, the guy more specialized in more essential aspects of the game, who can beat his counterpart in that aspect, will then oblige his counterpart to in turn emphasize more of what his own true strong points are, in order to remain or gain a competitive edge.

To borrow an analogy: if you imagine an elite level opponent has like 700 'defense', while you have a whole bunch of 'moves' at around '500-600', it doesn't matter how many different ones you can employ if its all equally fruitless in the end. If you want to get over that hump you need to invest more of that into fewer of those that will let you break through that ceiling.

As a general rule, a golden hammer beats a magic toolbox in combat sports. You need to be familiar with everything, so you can stall, defend, or avoid everything as necessary, but your proactivity, imposing your will on the opponent, depends on having an A-game.

I agree, and this isn't limited to MMA. It's just more pronounced because there's so much to learn. That's where the whole idea of critical distance comes in. Everyone at the elite level of all combat sports has some kind of specialty, and the specialists in more specialized sports will have the most specific A-games.

 

[tekkennlee]

I have spared with guys that are 6 foot plus over 200 pounds i am 5/9 155

They would make A UFC fighter look stupid not all the best fighters are in the UFC and i was young age 18 he was 19 and i was fast as hell remember this we have people in the streets that would destroy a UFC fighter Thats why my master calls it sisy fighting he was in Vietnam went against all styles all and won

I threw a punch from behind at my master , that he no way could see i was rolling my friend started craking up in laughter rolling on the Flore like an fool

 

[tekkennlee]

Pretty much. Machida is not "pure" karate. (or pure shotokan karate. Karate=/=Karate) but he is close, as close as you can get. And he certainly is the one who is held up as "the" sole karate fighter successfull in mma, by those who has not checked out how many successfull guys have karate in their toolbox.

That is pretty much the point I was trying to make about karate hate in mma. Karate fighters need to show a long karate career with no other cross training. Basically there are guys out there who insist on being karate based, and the mma fans refuse to believe what -on the basis that they are successfull which proves thay cannot be karate based. A thaiboxer can train whatever he wants, and he will still be labeled a thaiboxer.

The speaker at a ufc fight will always call a knee or elbow strike "thaiboxing techniques" -never mind if the user lerned them in karate. "Karate" techniques" are apparently limited to spectacular jumping spinning kicks.

But Karate is kick boxing Mauy Thai is a of shoot of Karate and Karate comes frome real Gung Fu from Africa 800 year old paintings showing ground fighting Judo in Africa

Gung Fu does not fight like the movies but like boxing kick boxing notice Chung Lee MMA fighter uses real Gung Fu with rules

 

[tekkennlee]

Machida is not "pure Karate i dissagee it is but not with the soft style it is Kyokushin without the soft style they have a hard style and a soft style of Karate hard style i for real fighting real life combat soft is like sparring point fighting

 

[tekkennlee]

Just like Judo we have real fighting in Judo and competition style like Tykowando real life and competition

 

[shinkyoku]

And we got a new troll it seems! And a quantity over quality troll, at that. Much less interesting.

 

[DoctorTaco]

Just like Judo we have real fighting in Judo and competition style like Tykowando real life and competition

i know vegas has a lot of boxing and gyms, how's the traditional martial arts scene there? Where do you train? I've always said kyokushin could replace Muay Thai in the required mma fundamentals