Fury: We Are The "Best Of Our Era"

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  1. Philtard

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    And lol at most carefully managed fighter in sports. IBF champion in 16th fight fought wlad in his 20th meanwhile Deontay was fighting a can on an under card in an 8 rounder. Gtfo.

    Deontay fans are delusional.
     
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    I actually believe Wilder is somehow the most badly mismanaged AND most incredibly well managed fighter ever. They've took him up to 41 fights without defeat via poor opposition, carefully timed cherry picks and dodgy judges. They've also somehow got a significant number of people believing that the guy with 3 of the 4 belts who has fought far better opposition and done it much sooner is shit scared of not only Wilder but also the guys Wilder fights - all without evidence or logic.
     
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    The delusions are absolutley mind blowing. You know when you argue with idiots and soon after realise that because said person is an idiot they will never ever understand basic reasoning? Yea, there's a lot of that.
     
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    Joshua scared!
     
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    Now that Deontay has drawn with that fat, alcoholic, coke head gypsy, Joshua must be scared!
     
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    Lol no worries dude! No offence meant
     
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    Didn’t Shirley offer a mystical 50m that would be off of the back of Joshua’s name, and then went in to hiding when Hearn flew to meet him.
    That seems to be the basis of ‘Joshua wanting no part of wilder’. You couldn’t make this shit up dude. I might offer Joshua 50m that I haven’t got just so a bunch of mugs on the internet can say he’s ducking me
     
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    From what we've seen so far I think the top three heavyweights from this era have been:
    1. Joshua
    2. Fury
    3. Wilder

    ...but I could definitely see Usyk taking the number 3 spot in the not too distant future.
     
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    How do you figure Joshua being the underdog to Fury? Didn't Fury beat Klitschko by points? Joshua got him out of there if I remember correctly.

    Why do you say Usyk? He is a cruiserweight, or did this change?
     
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    I was a fan of both Fury and Wilder way before this fight. Anyone who wishes to resort to name calling really shouldn't be taken too serious. They are too invested in a guy whom they don't even know, and who would do next to nill for them if they did.

    "Fans" take it over board sometimes. Hopefully we can get past sensitivities to have meaningful discussions. lol
     
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    Fury is obviously just hyping things up. Anyone with a brain knows they cannot comfortably claim to be the best HW until Joshua is out of the way. Fury, Joshua and WIlder are the top three (I think there will be question marks around Wilder until he fights Joshua, though), the rest is kind of a mixed bag imo. If Usyk can successfully move up, we're in for a very good time; Joseph Parker and Dillian Whyte also have room and time as well. We'll see, but I think Fury VS Wilder finally started turning some necessary wheels to get the division moving more and the best performances are yet to come (that's just speculation from me though).
     
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    Not at all, that is just being American.

    They voted Trump in, and you are looking for logic and reasoning....
     
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    To be fair it was Trump or Hilary. And Hilary ran on not being donald trump.

    Fuck me man. Did you see our own politicians? Won't have a debate about brexit because the opposition wants to watch I'm a celebrity get me out of here. The world Is fucking lost man.
     
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    Wilder needed more experience before upping the competition. He had very limited amateur experience. He's been moved like a fighter should be, there was just so much hype around him because of power.
     
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    He has a tiny bit less ammy experience than AJ and has been handled like a protected unadventurous fighter for a long time.

    Edit I meant less. Tiny bit less.
     
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    AJ got the finish vs Wlad but he had to go to war to do it, Fury coasted to a UD without putting himself or Wlad in any real trouble. Joshua doesnt have much chance of legitimately outpointing Fury over 12 rounds and from what we saw in the Wilder fight Fury might be the hardest man to finish in boxing right now, so it'll be a serious challenge.

    Usyk is coming up to HW soon, hes gonna be a problem imo.
     
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    He was clearly more raw though and I believe Joshua was trained and competed at a higher level.
     
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    Joshua is a duck, everyone knows that
     
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  19. codfather

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    Wilder was moved up very slowly.
    He won bronze medal at the Beijing Olympics so he's actually a more credentialled amateur than guys like Hasim Rahman and Tyson Fury.
    He was 27-0 when he fought a shot Audley Harrison, who was his first opponent hovering around the top 20.
     
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    I don't believe Wilder was ready for big step ups much earlier than he took them.
    Its dumb to move guys too quickly. Canelo didn't fight anyone until he had 40 fights either. Look where he is.
     

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