FISA Abuse Memo, prediction thread (update post 120 maybe)

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  1. Darkballs

    Darkballs Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    [QUOTE="fonzob1, post: 138335491, member: 465871" To obtain a FISA warrant, officials had to testify under oath that the claims made in the dossier (and any other "evidence" they had) were factual as far as they knew.

    You are painting your own reality for your own partisan reasons.[/QUOTE]


    Bullshit. This is utterly legally unsound. In order to obtain a warrant you need to establish probable cause, and to a smaller degree demonstrate that the scope of the warrant will help you flesh out said accusations. I'm not even sure what the fuck you're talking about above. You don't have to testify under oath about a warrant application. It's already a submitted court document.

    If I submit a warrant application with 20 eye witness accounts to the identity of a bank robber, and 1 out of those 20 turns out to be complete and utter horseshit, the warrant still stands.

    For fucks sake, the compiler of the dossier has stated that the dossier contained no information the fbi and justice department already had.

    You aren't doing anything other that beating the partisan drum, without any idea what the argument actually is.
     
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    All part of the master Obama plan, something something, who the fuck knows, hillary is guilty.
     
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    Darkballs Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    I'll second this as well. I disagree with his conclusions 95% of the time. But the guy takes the time to put for his argument in an intelligent and thought out manner. It's refreshing to get a genuinely good republican poster, as before we had to make due with teenager or trolls.
     
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    If only he wasn't so ferociously tribalistic
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    I don't believe a word you say. lol

    When all is said and done, the FBI would have to convince a FISA judge that a native born American man, who accumulated a fortune off of the American free market system and is running for President of the United States, also happens to be a spy for the socialist "republic" of Russia. The whole story could be a blockbuster comedy, and the people who continue to perpetuate this nonsense are irredeemably lost.

    https://www.justsecurity.org/38422/aint-easy-fisa-warrant-fbi-agent/

     
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    I think Nunes' Uranium One and Unmasking was more fun.
     
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    Darkballs Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    No. Just no. The FBI needs to show probable cause that a federal crime has been committed in order to get a warrant. They don't have to prove their case, let alone specifically that he's a spy. And him being a native born American man has fuck all to do with it.

    Well you could take two fucking seconds to google what it takes to get a warrant. Or just keep closing your partisan ears and making an ass of yourself.
     
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    I don't think the standard is even that strict when it comes to communications with foreign power.
     
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    You have to swear to the judge, that everything in the warrant is true and correct to the best of your knowledge, at the time he signs it. They’ll literally ask you themselves before they sign.

    Think that’s what he means.
     
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    Yeah, dude. It is apparent that I could just use Google searches to get the same level of education you claim to have received in law school. What the hell does Trey Gowdy know about obtaining FISA warrants? Why trust his word over "Dark Balls" (the Sherdog legal "expert")? lol
     
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    thanks for the completely unrelated comment
     
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    Now we have texts from Mark Warner trying to meet a Russian lobbyist and Steele. Specifically to meet alone.

    Its getting better and better
     
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    This is it!!!
     
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    "Russia is fucking with our shit."
    "Doesn't matter, they are exposing corrupt dems. Also, no they aren't. Also also, it's really the dems that are in collusion with Russia."
     
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    When the head democrat in the senate has texts asking to meet with a Russian Lobbyist. Yea they were in "collusion " also

    But collusion really isn't a crime
     
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    Essentially ticks two of the three boxes imo
     
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    Is this it? I heard this is it.
     
  20. SBJJ

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    Can I get a translator for this guy?
     
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