Fedor fans and Jones haters reduced to claiming steroid use disqualifies one from GOAT status.

[Stoupe]

TK and Matt Hamill are the real GOATS... Elbow kings!

 

[Pure Dust]

We all know Jones is the undisputed GOAT of the sport and because the haters can't point to flaws in his record so they try to point to the so-called fact that he used steroids but let's look at the facts.

The Lance Armstrong gambit
One method the haters will use in an attempt to discredit Jones is what I call the Lance Armstrong gambit. The argument goes something like this:

"Lance Armstrong was busted for roids and his legacy is tainted, so that means Jones' legacy is tainted as well."

However, the fact is Jones did NOT test positive for steroids he tested positive for estrogen blockers. So does testing positive for estrogen blockers disqualify someone from GOAT status or is it steroids. If it's steroids then the haters need a new talking point because Jones didn't test positive for steroids.

To add to that if one does even a bit of research they'd realize that many of the top riders in the Tour de France were later busted themselves or admitted to using steroids after the fact.

GSP and Fedor were clean
First, GSP. GSP has never tested positive for steroids but that steroid gut didn't just appear recently, and no GSP wasn't just exhaling. GSP has a clean cut appearance but let's not get things confused he's EXTREMELY SUSPECT AT BEST.

To add to that, GSP trains with Greg Jackson and Jon Jones and if you're claiming Jones is a roid cheat what about all of his buddies he trains with, what about Greg Jackson?

Moving on to Fedor. Fedor fought in Pride where there was NO, and I repeat NO steroid testing whatsoever. It was a complete free-for-all.

To add to that PRIDE was run by the Yakuza and when the UFC bought PRIDE they found out that all of their contracts were illegal and got royally screwed over. Hendo (who used TRT legally) said that PRIDE had no steroid testing and that all but a few of the fighters would be banned if they did. Videos time stamped.





So we're supposed to believe Fedor was clean all through PRIDE with no roid testing? Fedor took on all of these suspect roid users but cried for emergency steroid testing when Ubereem was walking around, yet in all his years in PRIDE he never ONCE asked for steroid testing. I wonder why.

It really is weird how some of these PRIDE fighters got "old" overnight.

Fedor is the best. You kids can't leave him out of a single thread.

 

[Bagatur]

Pride or not, Fedor also fought in world combat sambo championships. and they had pretty strict testing before UFC even knew what testing was.

 

[BVG]

We all know Jones is the undisputed GOAT of the sport and because the haters can't point to flaws in his record so they try to point to the so-called fact that he used steroids but let's look at the facts.

The Lance Armstrong gambit
One method the haters will use in an attempt to discredit Jones is what I call the Lance Armstrong gambit. The argument goes something like this:

"Lance Armstrong was busted for roids and his legacy is tainted, so that means Jones' legacy is tainted as well."

However, the fact is Jones did NOT test positive for steroids he tested positive for estrogen blockers. So does testing positive for estrogen blockers disqualify someone from GOAT status or is it steroids. If it's steroids then the haters need a new talking point because Jones didn't test positive for steroids.

To add to that if one does even a bit of research they'd realize that many of the top riders in the Tour de France were later busted themselves or admitted to using steroids after the fact.

GSP and Fedor were clean
First, GSP. GSP has never tested positive for steroids but that steroid gut didn't just appear recently, and no GSP wasn't just exhaling. GSP has a clean cut appearance but let's not get things confused he's EXTREMELY SUSPECT AT BEST.

To add to that, GSP trains with Greg Jackson and Jon Jones and if you're claiming Jones is a roid cheat what about all of his buddies he trains with, what about Greg Jackson?

Moving on to Fedor. Fedor fought in Pride where there was NO, and I repeat NO steroid testing whatsoever. It was a complete free-for-all.

To add to that PRIDE was run by the Yakuza and when the UFC bought PRIDE they found out that all of their contracts were illegal and got royally screwed over. Hendo (who used TRT legally) said that PRIDE had no steroid testing and that all but a few of the fighters would be banned if they did. Videos time stamped.





So we're supposed to believe Fedor was clean all through PRIDE with no roid testing? Fedor took on all of these suspect roid users but cried for emergency steroid testing when Ubereem was walking around, yet in all his years in PRIDE he never ONCE asked for steroid testing. I wonder why.

It really is weird how some of these PRIDE fighters got "old" overnight.

Jones fans reduced to crying about Fedor fans on the forums...

 

[Irishwhiskey119]

But in the spirit of the op, which I'm not sure whether you agree with him or not, how do we know any of those guys were clean?

Look we can debate about what is what forever but those are the names of people that were busted for steroids and PEDs for fights they lost so they aren't some magic drug that make you an amazing fighter.

 

[SenorGuillen]

What a insecure bunch those Fedor fanboys are. lol

 

[SnowBlynd]

Look we can debate about what is what forever but those are the names of people that were busted for steroids and PEDs for fights they lost so they aren't some magic drug that make you an amazing fighter.

Thats true I just wouldn't use a lot of those examples if I was trying to make a point about a clean guy beating a roider. The first 3 examples alone, all those guys have popped at some point or have been granted trt.

 

[Irishwhiskey119]

Thats true I just wouldn't use a lot of those examples if I was trying to make a point about a clean guy beating a roider. The first 3 examples alone, all those guys have popped at some point or have been granted trt.

They didn't pop for the fight in question and it's a lot more than 3 examples. I listed what i figured you may know but there are 100's of examples in the past. It's about a 50/50 split on dirty to clean win %'s.

 

[BringBackTRTforFairness]

Pride or not, Fedor also fought in world combat sambo championships. and they had pretty strict testing before UFC even knew what testing was.

yep non of the sambo guys he faced looked liek coleman or randleman 2 roiders and UFC champs he also beat

 

[MyEnglishIsPeperoni]

This sport like most is riddled with PED usage.

Some get caught some dont.

All we can do is go by the evidence.

Estrogen blockers for Jones + super low T levels -= obvious cheat to all thos ethat ar enot r tarded. This also means he is likely cheating now to beat Cormier etc because you cant just get your T levels back to normal after doing PEDS for a while, and without at least normal T levels you cant compete in MMA at the highest level

Fedor NOTHING

The kettle bell Fedor is just Fedor with a pump he never looked like that in his prime in pride when he fought, he looks the same now as he always has with very minor muscle loss due to ageing, same with Nog




JONE JONES = CHEATER = LEGACY AND ACHIEVEMENTS DONT COUNT FOR ANYTHING DUE TO THIS

FEDOR = GOAT, BEAT UP LOADS OF PED USERS WO USING HIMSELF, NOT TO MENTION BEATING UP MANY UFC CHAMPS, OTHER TALENTS, AND PEOPLE MUCH LARGER THAN HIMSELF

JON JONES IS A STEROID USING CAN A SUPER CAN IF YOU LIKE