Evidence That Assad Was Behind Recent Chemical Attacks?

[Rod1]

As a pure terror weapon to do just that, terrorize, to show not only can he bomb people to submission (with suprisingly poor results) he can gas them too. And he quite correctly calculated that the American appetite for doing anything about it is very low.

You still risk a lot and makes it harder to normalize relationships down the road.

It made no sense when regular/incendiary bombs work just the same or even better.

 

[floivanus]

I'm sure we'll find those WMDs eventually though!

They were theowing babies out of INCUBATORS

BABIES you ANIMAL think of the CHILDREN

 

[Happy Man]

https://thegrayzone.com/2019/11/18/...-chemical-weapons-evidence-after-us-pressure/

Second whistleblower saying everything was a sham and crock of shit.

https://ahtribune.com/world/north-africa-south-west-asia/syria-crisis/3682-opcw-doctored-report.html


Reporter saying he quit Newsweek bc the won’t publish a story that shows the false flag nonsense. Image that, our corrupt warmongering MSM media folks.

 

[Last Samurai]

https://thegrayzone.com/2019/11/18/...-chemical-weapons-evidence-after-us-pressure/

Second whistleblower saying everything was a sham and crock of shit.

https://ahtribune.com/world/north-africa-south-west-asia/syria-crisis/3682-opcw-doctored-report.html


Reporter saying he quit Newsweek bc the won’t publish a story that shows the false flag nonsense. Image that, our corrupt warmongering MSM media folks.

Unbelievable that the MSM won't cover this.

With two whistle blowers from the inspection team
you would think that this was a major news story

But instead... nothing.

 

[Last Samurai]

Except Tucker Carlson

Kudos for reporting the truth!

 

[Fronk]

@Madmick

 

[Ruprecht]

Eresh Omar Jamal is a conspiracy theorist, so if there's any "truth" it's unlikely to come from that source.
He's made similar claims about 9/11. He'll always claim it's a conspiracy when it conflicts with his political ideals, whether it's 9/11, the Rousseff financing scandal, or criticism of Assange being a Psyop.

 

[Last Samurai]

Eresh Omar Jamal is a conspiracy theorist, so if there's any "truth" it's unlikely to come from that source.
He's made similar claims about 9/11. He'll always claim it's a conspiracy when it conflicts with his political ideals, whether it's 9/11, the Rousseff financing scandal, or criticism of Assange being a Psyop.

This is not a conspiracy theory. The facts are clear and so is the OPCW's efforts to cover them up.

They found no evidence that a chemical weapons attack took place in Douma. That is why two whistleblowers have come forward from the inspection team who say that the OPCW report does not reflect the evidence on the ground.

 

[Ruprecht]

This is not a conspiracy theory. The facts are clear and so is the OPCW's efforts to cover them up.

They found no evidence that a chemical weapons attack took place in Douma. That is why two whistleblowers have come forward from the inspection team who say that the OPCW report does not reflect the evidence on the ground.

Then find a better source.

 

[Madmick]

https://www.thedailystar.net/opinio...about-the-syrian-chemical-attack-2018-1821409


At the time this alleged "chemical attack" happened, some people (including myself) felt that something just didn't add up. The Syrian government was winning the Civil War against U.S. backed rebels. The only way for Assad to lose power was if he did something to provoke the Americans. In other words, he had nothing to gain and everything to lose.

Another aspect which is quite troublesome is the fact that the OPCW left out key findings by their team of engineers in the final report. The UN is supposed to be impartial, but the way this was handled raises questions about their credibility.



Even Tucker knows it was fake... it was a lie

Jesus, the same players and the same horseshit Russian propaganda. This has been shit on so many times it's ridiculous. Russians and Syrians deliberately wouldn't let anyone near the sites after they happened. Guilt was obvious. :
Evidence That Assad Was Behind Recent Chemical Attacks?

Here's where I outlined how those shill professors are just anti-Israel lobbyists. Their reputations took a huge hit over pursuing this nonsense CT:
Syria Conflict: Bombs away boys. (Israel openly admits to bombing Iranian bases in Syria)

Mountains of evidence debunking this obvious wartime disinformation campaign. For some reason two posters on this board can't let it go, and the most gullible targets for this obvious propaganda kept posting "evidence" that was later demonstrated to be literally fabricated-- as in doctored photographs-- that were picked apart one by one:
Syria Conflict: Bombs away boys. (Israel openly admits to bombing Iranian bases in Syria)

The Russians literally tried fielding the claim that none of these attacks actually took place. Now they find people stupid enough to believe their refreshed strategy that it had to be someone else who did it?
Syria Conflict: Bombs away boys. (Israel openly admits to bombing Iranian bases in Syria)

For some reason these posters don't like to talk about retractions from the very tinfoil journalists they cite:
Updated: Seymore Hersh, Red line, Rat line, China/Russia call for Chemical Weapons investigation

And, truly, if you read nothing else, one should read the incredible investigative reporting on this disinformation campaign here:
Syria Conflict: Bombs away boys. (Israel openly admits to bombing Iranian bases in Syria)


Dump.

 

[Madmick]

Notice it's all of our resident hardcore anti-Semitic posters who are gobbling this stuff up, everyone.

It's not a coincidence. Patterns emerge in these propaganda wars. Sometimes coincidences aren't coincidences. They convey powerful truths.

 

[Last Samurai]

Then find a better source.

How about Middle East correspondent Robert Frisk, winner of the Press Awards Foreign Reporter of the Year seven times

https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...-video-conspiracy-theory-russia-a8927116.html


You won't find many 'reliable' news outlets reporting on it because (as was posted above) the story is being suppressed.


Anyway, the validity of the story has been confirmed by an independent panel of experts which included José Bustani, First Director General of the OPCW and former Ambassador to the United Kingdom and France, who had this to say upon seeing the evidence:

“The convincing evidence of irregular behaviour in the OPCW investigation of the alleged Douma chemical attack confirms doubts and suspicions I already had. I could make no sense of what I was reading in the international press. Even official reports of investigations seemed incoherent at best. The picture is certainly clearer now, although very disturbing”

“I have always expected the OPCW to be a true paradigm of multilateralism. My hope is that the concerns expressed publicly by the Panel, in its joint consensus statement, will catalyse a process by which the Organisation can be resurrected to become the independent and non-discriminatory body it used to be.”

https://couragefound.org/2019/10/analytical-points-opcw-panel/

 

[Madmick]

How about Middle East correspondent Robert Frisk, winner of the Press Awards Foreign Reporter of the Year seven times

https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...-video-conspiracy-theory-russia-a8927116.html


You won't find many 'reliable' news outlets reporting on it because (as was posted above) the story is being suppressed.


Anyway, the validity of the story has been confirmed by an independent panel of experts which included José Bustani, First Director General of the OPCW and former Ambassador to the United Kingdom and France, who had this to say upon seeing the evidence:


https://couragefound.org/2019/10/analytical-points-opcw-panel/

Fisk's awful, sloppy piece in The Independent was brilliantly taken down by the Intercept's Robert Mackey:
Syria Conflict: Bombs away boys. (Israel openly admits to bombing Iranian bases in Syria)

I shared that above, but since you're trying to necro over an argument you've lost too many times to count, okay.

*Edit*
LOL, almost forget this gem. Shill Fisk was let in and guided around on a tour by Russians at the very moment they were blocking UN and OPCW inspectors from accessing the sites where the attacks allegedly struck:
Syria Conflict: Bombs away boys. (Israel openly admits to bombing Iranian bases in Syria)
That man has become the definition of a government tool.

 

[Last Samurai]

Fisk's awful, sloppy piece in The Independent was brilliantly taken down by the Intercept's Robert Mackey:
Syria Conflict: Bombs away boys. (Israel openly admits to bombing Iranian bases in Syria)

I shared that above, but since you're trying to necro over an argument you've lost too many times to count, okay.

*Edit*
LOL, almost forget this gem. Shill Fisk was let in and guided around on a tour by Russians at the very moment they were blocking UN and OPCW inspectors from accessing the sites where the attacks allegedly struck:
Syria Conflict: Bombs away boys. (Israel openly admits to bombing Iranian bases in Syria)
That man has become the definition of a government tool.

I suppose the former Director General of the OPCW and the two whistleblowers from the inspection team are Russian shills too.

These new developments are worth discussing, but by merging this thread you effectively kill the discussion, and you know that very well. Your bias is showing on this one.

 

[Madmick]

I suppose the former Director General of the OPCW and the two whistleblowers from the inspection team are Russian shills too.

These new developments are worth discussing, but by merging this thread you effectively kill the discussion, and you know that very well. Your bias is showing on this one.

That report's conclusions were factored into the overall assessment of the final report by the organization. The evidence simply wasn't compelling.

The Director General only acknowledged that team's side investigation wasn't fabricated, and was part of the OPCW greater investigative efforts. He quite firmly indicated that he concurred with the conclusion of the report assigning blame to Assad.

 

[Last Samurai]

That report's conclusions were factored into the overall assessment of the final report by the organization. The evidence simply wasn't compelling.

The Director General only acknowledged that team's side investigation wasn't fabricated, and was part of the OPCW greater investigative efforts. He quite firmly indicated that he concurred with the conclusion of the report assigning blame to Assad.

That's a bold-faced lie

 

[Madmick]

That's a bold-faced lie

No, what's a bald-faced lie is that these attacks never took place. You just posted Tucker Carlson and Anne Coulter laughing while nonchalantly parroting that outdated propaganda strategy.

LOL, get your lies straight. Did chemical attacks never take place, or were they a black flag? These are mutually exclusive theories. You guys can't seem to make up your mind.

From Human Rights Watch:
Victims of Syrian Chemical Attacks Await Justice
Five Years Since Sarin Killed Hundreds in Eastern Ghouta

The men, women, and children in Eastern Ghouta – victims, Syrian activists alleged, of a chemical weapons attack. Numerous sheep, dogs, cats, and birds were also among the dead.

Hundreds of people in the Damascus suburb were killed. Human Rights Watch’s investigation concluded that all evidence pointed to the Syrian government’s likely responsibility for what a later United Nations inquiry determined was an attack using the deadly nerve agent sarin. Although the Syrian government and its ally Russia tried to blame the attack on anti-government fighters – a narrative Russia’s state media and army of social-media savvy conspiracy theorists continue to promote – the UN Commission of Inquiry on Syria said the perpetrators likely had access to government chemical stockpiles. While a separate UN investigation into attacks was not authorized to name the culprits, the chief UN investigator, Ake Sellstrom of Sweden, later said it was “difficult to see” how anti-government groups could have been responsible.

This chemical attack has been the deadliest in Syria’s seven-year conflict, though there have been at least 85 confirmed chemical attacks in Syria since the one on Eastern Ghouta. Some were carried out by Islamic State (ISIS) militants, but the Syrian government has been responsible for the vast majority. The actual number of chemical attacks in Syria since 2011 is almost certainly much higher.

For years, Russia used its UN Security Council veto to shield President Bashar al-Assad’s government and military from scrutiny and sanctions for its use of chemical weapons. Although Moscow initially supported UN investigations, when investigators from the UN and the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) blamed Damascus for an April 2017 attack, Russia used its veto to shut down investigations into chemical weapons used in Syria once and for all.

This stuff has all been mapped, now, and you keep quoting the same dozen people who seem to be the only journalists/professors in the western world who refuse to come to grips with the truth, and most who work on the side for RT/Sputnik:
https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/04/04/syria-year-chemical-weapons-attacks-persist

The information, based on data from seven sources, shows that the Syrian government is responsible for the majority of 85 confirmed chemical weapon attacks. The data also show that the Syrian government has been largely undeterred by the efforts of the United Nations Security Council, the international Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), and unilateral action by individual countries to enforce the prohibition on Syria’s use of chemical weapons.

“In Syria, the government is using chemical weapons that are banned the world over without paying any price,” said Lama Fakih, deputy Middle East director at Human Rights Watch. “One year after the horrific sarin attack on Khan Sheikhoun, neither the UN Security Council nor the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons has acted to uphold the prohibition against chemical weapon attacks"...

But despite confirmed use of sarin by the Syrian government by both the Joint Investigative Mechanism and the OPCW’s own fact-finding mission, the OPCW has not taken any collective measures. The OPCW should suspend and sanction the Syrian government for its failure to comply with the Convention, Human Rights Watch said. If the Security Council and OPCW continue to drag their feet, it is a signal that member countries need to individually hold the Syrian government accountable and re-instate a system to identify responsibility for attacks.

 

[Samjj]

False flag mossad op. J00s did it and if you don’t believe it you’ve been sold by the MSM.

what fucking benefit of the doubt does Assad deserve from any of you retards?

 

[Last Samurai]

No, what's a bald-faced lie is that these attacks never took place. You just posted Tucker Carlson and Anne Coulter laughing while nonchalantly parroting that outdated propaganda strategy.

LOL, get your lies straight. Did chemical attacks never take place, or were they a black flag? These are mutually exclusive theories. You guys can't seem to make up your mind.

From Human Rights Watch:
Victims of Syrian Chemical Attacks Await Justice
Five Years Since Sarin Killed Hundreds in Eastern Ghouta

This stuff has all been mapped, now, and you keep quoting the same dozen people who seem to be the only journalists/professors in the western world who refuse to come to grips with the truth, and most who work on the side for RT/Sputnik:
https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/04/04/syria-year-chemical-weapons-attacks-persist

So you didn't read a single thing that I posted

The thread (before you merged it with this one) was about two whistleblowers from the OPCW inspection team that dispute the findings of the final report based on omitted ballistics analysis and toxicology samples, their respective field of expertise.

The former Director General, José Bustani, along with a panel of experts met with the whistleblowers in Brussels and unanimously criticized the OPCW for 'Unacceptable Practices' in describing the omission of key evidence collected by the team.

José Bustani most certainly did NOT firmly indicated that he concurred with the conclusion of the report assigning blame to Assad.

 

[Madmick]

So you didn't read a single thing that I posted

The thread (before you merged it with this one) was about two whistleblowers from the OPCW inspection team that dispute the findings of the final report based on omitted ballistics analysis and toxicology samples, their respective field of expertise.

The former Director General, José Bustani, along with a panel of experts met with the whistleblowers in Brussels and unanimously criticized the OPCW for 'Unacceptable Practices' in describing the omission of key evidence collected by the team.

José Bustani most certainly did NOT firmly indicated that he concurred with the conclusion of the report assigning blame to Assad.

I've read all of that and more. You didn't say, former Secretariat Director General. I was speaking towards the Director General.

I don't care what a few rogue diplomats, professors, or journalists have to say about this regarding a report that isn't presented transparently to the world, but in some dark room, by a "whistleblower" whose identity is also shrouded. You can't even get your lies straight: vacillating between, "No chemical attack took place!" and "they covered up a tiny piece of a huge investigation that was the only tiny piece of that investigation which challenged the greater conclusion that it wasn't Assad!"

Snore.