Donald's $1.75 T Infrastructure Plan

[uncommon]

Most federal taxes are paid by urban populations.

hard tell by how much, or if everyone is.on the same page in terms of defining rural vs urban

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/blogs/random-samplings/2016/12/a_comparison_of_rura.html

 

[Rod1]

hard tell by how much, or if everyone is.on the same page in terms of defining rural vs urban

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/blogs/random-samplings/2016/12/a_comparison_of_rura.html

You can do your own guess here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_tax_revenue_by_state

And

https://www.icip.iastate.edu/tables/population/urban-pct-states

The only contiguous rural state that seem to be pulling its weight is Vermont, the rest are well below federal spending per capita.

Meanwhile pretty much all states with 90% urbanization are paying more than they are taking.

 

[uncommon]

You can do your own guess here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_tax_revenue_by_state

And

https://www.icip.iastate.edu/tables/population/urban-pct-states

The only contiguous rural state that seem to be pulling its weight is Vermont, the rest are well below federal spending per capita.

Meanwhile pretty much all states with 90% urbanization are paying more than they are taking.

sample size at state level is 50

sample size of county is in the thousands

and county level median income puts rural v urban at roughly equal. and federal taxes are primarily collected via income.

https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2016/acs/acsgeo-1.html

should the higher sample size take priority?

 

[MadSquabbles500]

Want to "keep" the campaign promise to fix the infrastructure? Also want to cut federal taxes for the wealthy? How can it be done?

Simple: make states pay.

Such genius, so finance.

Details of the long awaited infrastructure plan are here.

What does it boil down to? An unfunded mandate.



https://www.npr.org/2018/02/11/5849...long-awaited-1-5-trillion-infrastructure-plan

So will the States tax the rich more? Or will middle class be shrunk further, that is if there is any shrinking left to be had?

 

[MadSquabbles500]

This is racist sexist and kkk
Infrastructure is the worst idea ever this year, but not last year. Last year it was great.

What we really need is another damned damn. Oooh ooh. Hear me out. Giant trench. We dig the rio out to be a mile wide and 500 feet deep. We have our own personal Panama Canal. And it’ll be a wall they can’t dig under.

But seriously though the Brent Spence bridge every president does a speech in front of is still a pice of shit. I drove over it every day. Will his be the bill that fixes it finally

If they dig a big moat between Mexico and US, AZ, NM, and Tex, and Coachella Valley in CA RE values will increase dramatically. Of course all the land will be bought up before hand by the people that payed the lobbyists.

 

[MadSquabbles500]

We are gonna spend our way out of this recession. Wait, that was like 10 years ago.

We are going to spend our way right into a recession. And we may lack the monetary tools to help fix it when the recession does hit.

The big recession/depression suppose to hit ten years ago too.

 

[Prutfis]

Nobody is against infrastructure spending. This plan is absurd, and will never get funded, especially after his huge tax cut for the rich and massive boom to military spending.....

He went full scrat. Again. Biggest "but but Obama Trump apologist" on the forum. His skull would probably split if he said anything negative about his orange daddy.

 

[Trotsky]

This is racist sexist and kkk
Infrastructure is the worst idea ever this year, but not last year. Last year it was great.

This is what two-dimensional types like you don't seem able to grasp: not all policies addressing an issue are equal by mere way of their purported aim. Just like a "universal healthcare" plan by which huge swaths of people are forced into bankruptcy to subsidize persistent private profits isn't equal to a universal plan by which profit motive is eliminated so that all those persons can become covered without being forced into destitution.

Likewise, a public infrastructure project in the New Deal mold that evenly distributes benefits, draws funding from those most able to provide it, and provides robust good-paying jobs for workers is distinctly different from (read: better than) one that distributes billions of dollars upward to private contractors who then provide shitty services, pay workers shitty wages, and pocket huge amounts of public dollars.

 

[Throttlehead]

Always a tweet, always.

 

[bufetadanacara]

There is a should argument if its primarily benefitting city folk at the expense of rural towns.

These massive non free market projects rarely get divvied up evenly.

I think there could be alot of costs and benefits to it, historically would it be fair to say that federal infrastruture spending has been a success?

would those variables hold true today?

idk

I think cities should pay for their own bridges, subway systems, etc. I live in the country and try to never go cities.

They are the bane of the planet.

 

[Rod1]

sample size at state level is 50

sample size of county is in the thousands

and county level median income puts rural v urban at roughly equal. and federal taxes are primarily collected via income.

https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2016/acs/acsgeo-1.html

should the higher sample size take priority?

Direct revenue collection data supercedes any other data.

The more urban the state the more taxes the pay per capita.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

He killed the space telescope fuck this guy

 

[KILL KILL]

I think cities should pay for their own bridges, subway systems, etc. I live in the country and try to never go cities.

They are the bane of the planet.

Cities are bane of the planet, how?

 

[steveflynn]

I think cities should pay for their own bridges, subway systems, etc. I live in the country and try to never go cities.

They are the bane of the planet.

Sorry, but this is non sensical. Cities are where the majority of economic activity occurs and they mostly pay for infrastructure projects overall in both rural and urban areas.

 

[IGIT]

The Republican charade that they are the party of fiscal responsibility has finally, thankfully been shattered to pieces.

hi steveflynn!

that illusion was shattered back when it was created; in the 1980's.

- IGIT

 

[Bunk Moreland]

The big recession/depression suppose to hit ten years ago too.

That would be 2008 ? Or my math wrong.

 

[uncommon]

Direct revenue collection data supercedes any other data.

The more urban the state the more taxes the pay per capita.

If direct revenue county level collection data was available would you accept the larger sample size over state data?

 

[Rod1]

If direct revenue county level collection data was available would you accept the larger sample size over state data?

State data contains the data of all the counties, it is by definition a larger sample data.

 

[HomerThompson]

Are you allergic to discussion?

No, but I'm allergic to dipshits.

 

[kpt018]

There's always a tweet.....