Discussing "I am not your negro" and James Baldwin

[MysticNinjaJay]

posting a huffpo article doesn't help, it's almost impossible to read, also these aren't racist remarks, these interactions are with ppl who just happen to be non white.

You wanted proof, I gave you proof. This article lists 13 examples in detail showing that Trump has racist views. It's not impossible to read unless you don't know how to read and they ARE racist remarks.

Trump says he's not racist. He has disavowed White Supremacy but his words and actions betray that sentiment. The reason that White Nationalists are so excited about him is because he campaigned on bigotry. He doesn't see it that way but others do and can point it out. One of the problems with racism is that some racists are either in denial that they are racist or don't recognize their racism for what it is. But just because they can't see it doesn't mean the rest of the world has to be blind to it and overlook it. I know racism when I see it and Donald Trump is racist.

 

[Stitches4snitches]

when are you going to make sense in any post, ever?

When you're able to refrain from staying out of a thread you says no one cares about.

 

[seiger]

when are you going to make sense in any post, ever?

look around son. you are not among friends.

 

[seiger]

are you trying to change the subject on me?

no, first argue your points that Trump is racist, for which you are failing, is that why you're trying to change the subject, no.

deal with that first.

the film and text are the subject. your whole attempt to derail the discussion is off topic and predicated on an accusation of race baiting, which is why i asked you the question - is your contention that the film and text is race baiting?

your questions are asked and answered by more than just me.

time for you to account for your own position, or with the greatest respect in the world, simply fuck off.

 

[dissolved]

 

[seiger]

@Jack V Savage
@Blackened
@m52nickerson
@Thurisaz
@Gandhi
@Fawlty
@nostradumbass
@Kafir-kun
@JDragon

quite like to get the opinion of some of the better posters around here, about baldwin and his relevance today.

 

[seiger]

so you are blaming muslims for the experience of african americans in a nation of under 1% muslims, for the last x 100 years...

it really does seem like you are trying to avoid discussing the topic, and furthermore are engaging in the kind of dehumanisation baldwin is against.

i get it. you dont want to feel guilty for something you had no part in. and yet here you are perpetuating it.

 

[DC23]

Shit thread. Shit Film.

 

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[Islam Imamate]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/obfuscate

"Definition of obfuscate
obfuscated
;
obfuscating

1. transitive verb
2. 1a : to throw into shadow : darkenb : to make obscure <obfuscate the issue> <officials who … continue to obscure and obfuscate what happened — Mary Carroll>
   
   
3. 2: confuse <obfuscate the reader>
   
   
4. intransitive verb
5. : to be evasive, unclear, or confusing <The suspect oftenobfuscated during the interrogation.>

obfuscation
play\ˌäb-(ˌ)fə-ˈskā-shən\ noun
obfuscatory
play\äb-ˈfə-skə-ˌtȯr-ē, əb-\ adjective

"Did You Know?
To obfuscate something means to make it so that it isn't clear or transparent, much like dirty water makes it hard to see to the bottom of a pond. The verb shares its ob- root (meaning "over, completely") with obscure, another word that can refer to the act of concealing something or making it more difficult to see or understand. The rest of obfuscate comes from Latin fuscus, which means "dark brown" and is distantly related to our word dusk."

________

"al-Imam Ja’far al-Sadiq (as) (The Sixth Imam of Ahlul-Bayt [family of the house of Muhammad]) said:

"al-Taqiyya is my religion, and the religion of my ancestors.”He (as)also said: "He who doesn’t practice al-Taqiyya, doesn't practice his religion."

https://www.al-islam.org/shiite-encyclopedia-ahlul-bayt-dilp-team/al-taqiyya-dissimulation-part-3

 

[seiger]

Shit thread. Shit Film.

thank you for your candid opinion. what is it based on?

 

[DC23]

thank you for your candid opinion. what is it based on?

A shit thread, poorly typed and entirely based on race.

Also your avatar makes it pretty clear that you have an agenda.

You sick perverted fuck.

 

[dissolved]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/obfuscate

"Definition of obfuscate
obfuscated
;
obfuscating

1. transitive verb
2. 1a : to throw into shadow : darkenb : to make obscure <obfuscate the issue> <officials who … continue to obscure and obfuscate what happened — Mary Carroll>
   
   
3. 2: confuse <obfuscate the reader>
   
   
4. intransitive verb
5. : to be evasive, unclear, or confusing <The suspect oftenobfuscated during the interrogation.>

obfuscation
play\ˌäb-(ˌ)fə-ˈskā-shən\ noun
obfuscatory
play\äb-ˈfə-skə-ˌtȯr-ē, əb-\ adjective

"Did You Know?
To obfuscate something means to make it so that it isn't clear or transparent, much like dirty water makes it hard to see to the bottom of a pond. The verb shares its ob- root (meaning "over, completely") with obscure, another word that can refer to the act of concealing something or making it more difficult to see or understand. The rest of obfuscate comes from Latin fuscus, which means "dark brown" and is distantly related to our word dusk."

________

"al-Imam Ja’far al-Sadiq (as) (The Sixth Imam of Ahlul-Bayt [family of the house of Muhammad]) said:

"al-Taqiyya is my religion, and the religion of my ancestors.”He (as)also said: "He who doesn’t practice al-Taqiyya, doesn't practice his religion."

https://www.al-islam.org/shiite-encyclopedia-ahlul-bayt-dilp-team/al-taqiyya-dissimulation-part-3

It is ironic that you would obfuscate this thread by quoting my post to you on obfuscation.

 

[seiger]

A shit thread, poorly typed and entirely based on race.

Also your avatar makes it pretty clear that you have an agenda.

You sick perverted fuck.

mixed race relationships are unusual to you?

"sick, perverted"... hmm.

im pretty sure people are free to love who they like.

whats really sick and perverted is you standing by the window and taking an interest in it.

 

[Islam Imamate]

It is ironic that you would obfuscate this thread by quoting my post to you on obfuscation.

 

[JDragon]

@Jack V Savage
@Blackened
@m52nickerson
@Thurisaz
@Gandhi
@Fawlty
@nostradumbass
@Kafir-kun
@JDragon

quite like to get the opinion of some of the better posters around here, about baldwin and his relevance today.

I gotta admit I had to google him. I read the Wiki article and now have somewhat of a preliminary opinion, but I guess the whole race relations topic is a bit alien to me

 

[DC23]

mixed race relationships are unusual to you?

"sick, perverted"... hmm.

im pretty sure people are free to love who they like.

whats really sick and perverted is you standing by the window and taking an interest in it.

Get the fuck out of here you fool. I'm pale as fuck and have 2 brown daughters with a woman darker than the T-Shirt I'm currently wearing.

What disgusts me is sick little people like you that make this an issue and highlight it again and again. You're on an MMA Forum and you're spouting so much race bullshit it's pathetic. Like I said, look at your avatar you desperate little boy...

How a mod hasn't banned you is ridiculous.

 

[ultramanhyata]

His words!

I remember when people used to get carded and or banned here for posting entire articles in a thread.

Post the link. Those interested will read it. At the very least, put the article in spoiler brackets so it doesn't make your post a mile fucking long.

I respect the courage and integrity of black men like Baldwin and the other heroes of his generation. But they won the war. Racism is no longer codified in law. Give them credit for their hard-fought, hugely sacrificial victory.

And don't insult their memory by trying to place today's SJW clowns in their company.

Baldwin is to a BLM activist as William Tecumseh Sherman is to a Civil War reenactor.

 

[Badger67]

Get the fuck out of here you fool. I'm pale as fuck and have 2 brown daughters with a woman darker than the T-Shirt I'm currently wearing.

What disgusts me is sick little people like you that make this an issue and highlight it again and again. You're on an MMA Forum and you're spouting so much race bullshit it's pathetic. Like I said, look at your avatar you desperate little boy...

How a mod hasn't banned you is ridiculous.

He only changed his avatar to trigger the conservatives in here for using the "C" word 4398573849 times a day improperly. That's his inherent agenda with it. Especially since it' hardly an interracial relationship picture and more of a porno picture, likely of the fetish variety. I have no idea how numerous people on this site haven't been banned; the modding is terrible.

 

[MysticNinjaJay]

I remember when people used to get carded and or banned here for posting entire articles in a thread.

Post the link. Those interested will read it. At the very least, put the article in spoiler brackets so it doesn't make your post a mile fucking long.

I respect the courage and integrity of black men like Baldwin and the other heroes of his generation. But they won the war. Racism is no longer codified in law. Give them credit for their hard-fought, hugely sacrificial victory.

And don't insult their memory by trying to place today's SJW clowns in their company.

Baldwin is to a BLM activist as William Tecumseh Sherman is to a Civil War reenactor.

It didn't post properly any way and you're right that if people really want to read the article they can do that. As for Baldwin and Civil Rights he does sound like a brave and intelligent man to me.

All of this Social Justice Warrior shit is annoying though. That's just a buzzword. Racism still exists as does bigotry in general and there are still political issues that need to be addressed.

Trump has proven that he plans to make good on some of his campaign promises such as building the wall and banning Muslim immigration. Not surprisingly he is going to face roadblocks with his agenda. I fully expect his Presidency to be a dismal failure.