Could Romero Be The GOAT Middleweight?

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  1. Sirwastealot

    Sirwastealot Red Belt

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    I feel like if started MMA and won 2 or 3 fights, i could legitimately ask the question how many more wins do i need to become GOAT.

    Everybody and their mom can't be GOAT, Romero isn't, or whittaker, stipe, khabib, even DC.

    DC is the only one of that group who should even be in the conversation. But anytime someone strings together a couple of top wins you start hearing GOAT talks. It takes more than that.
     
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    that rematch would be something else, like GSP v BJ 2 or Wand v. Page 2.

    Staph and broken leg .... that rematch may be a while away. too bad
     
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    He’s a hall of famer already but not GOAT.
     
  4. LockardTheGOAT

    LockardTheGOAT Sherdog's Intellectual Savior

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    That's why I specifically said Middleweight GOAT.
     
  5. The ScorpioN

    The ScorpioN "GET OVER HERE!"

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    Right, AS never had early career setbacks, especially not against Japanese pro wrasslers.
     
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    UFC Truck Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    Like Kelvin wouldn’t starch your ass. I don’t see why losing a fight is treated as such on here. It’s not like he was embarrassed every moment leading up to the finish.
     
  7. AnotherOldGuy

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    He's up there, but its impossible to put him ahead of Whittaker at this point. Now if he beats Whittaker in the rematch you could make a case for him being number two behind Anderson.

    But he's nowhere close to having Anderson's results.
     
  8. Username Bob

    Username Bob Bring back NHB.

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    The guy has huge problems making weight for 185. He needs to move up to LHW, but he is too short and will get smashed.

    He isn't near the MW GOAT, whether he wins or not.

    He may have beat Weidman, but with 3 title defenses to his resume, he is still behind him.

    Murilo Bustamante is ahead of him.

    And let's not forget that Anderson Silva played Fedor to Rich Franklin's Nogueira.

    Without the Spider, Ace is most likely the MW GOAT. And he stands tall at #2 regardless.
     
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    Who cares about the belt? Brock went 1-1 and then got a shot against a 90 year old. Romero went 8-0 before he got his. Does anyone think Lesnar has had a better UFC career than Romero?
     
  10. Username Bob

    Username Bob Bring back NHB.

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    Because the new fans in MMA are only here for the hyped fighters like McGregor and Ronda. The UFC is doing a great job of making MMA fighters they want to promote rockstars, and it will stay that way, because the casual fan buys into it. Great advertising. Fighting has become secondary to the org.

    Ben Askren can attest to that.

    Also, most of them are millenials who come from the generation participation trophies, and never played sports...let alone step into a gym.

    Being punched hurts, and this is an all talk no walk generation.

    Let me ask all of you that fought competitively here: Did you learn more from a win or a loss?

    I know my first ass kicking taught me a lot about myself. These kids don't know shit about something like that. They know that N'gannou hits harder than anyone ever, Ronda was a once in a lifetime fighter and McGregor is the greatest ever despite never once defending his belt and getting his ass kicked by a near 50 year old Mayweather that carried him through most of the rounds.

    Common Core education + advertising conditioning + unearned accolades - physical endeavors = Most of the sherdog UFC nut garblers.
     
  11. milenss

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    Yes!
    Why not?
    Everybody can be GOAT, according to Sherdog.
     
  12. ramair455

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    Where talking about GOAT, belts matter unless your talking about Fedor. And Brock is never in a GOAT discussion
     
  13. Area809

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    Nice stats, but a case can be made that Romero’s success has came in the “golden era” of the MW division. He has faced better opposition in succession than Silva did.

    If you want to scrutinize Silva’s defenses, you’re looking at the following:

    -Lutter (Lutter who?)
    -MW Maia(nothing to offer in the wrestling department as a MW)
    -2x’s Chael (biggest fraud of opponent ever)
    -Leites (would be outclassed by today’s top MW’s(
    -Cote (solid veteran but would still get worked by any current MW even on his best day)
    -Vitor (we see what happens to Vitor when he’s off the roids)

    Hendo, Marquardt and Franklin were his best victories. I really do think most of those guys wouldn’t crack the top 5 today and his strength of opponents is questionable. Though Romero has done it without a belt to defend, his run just seems a bit more impressive, when you take the opposition into account.
     
  14. cooks1

    cooks1 No matter where you go-there you are

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    Man, you do love those Chocolate salty Romero balls don't you.

     
  15. Baba Ghanoush

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    Sherdog once again showing they have the memory of a goldfish.

    Yoel needs like 7 more years to even reach the amount of accomplishments Silva produced. And this is coming from a huge Yoel fan.
     
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    It's really easy to undercut Sliva's wins as well. Fact is, Romero's resume is as impressive or more impressive than Silva's. It's hard to hear, but it's true. Strength of schedule matters.

    Personally, I 'd have Silva ahead of Romero, but I think there are valid arguments the other way that are not easily dismissed.
     
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    It strange how people think winning a rematch proves youre better and wipes away the loss.

    Prime PED failure and prime loss really hurts a goat candidate imo.
     
  18. Po

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    He is an absolute beast and would have given prime Silva all he could handle. I would favor him over Silva actually.

    He didn't beat Jacare though. Bs decision.
     
  19. tkotom

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    Whooping a bunch of guys who were coming off soul crushing wins isn't as impressive as say Conor starching Aldo and Eddie who were on a roll.
     
  20. OriginMMA

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    Not denying that, but for people to say Romero would have run through those opponents Anderson did is flat out wrong because he wouldn't have. Fighters evolve so it wouldn't be fair to compare how current Romero would do against Anderson's opposition. That's like asking how prime Anderson do against Romeros old opposition.
     

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