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Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by LockardTheGOAT, Feb 13, 2018.
He's 0-2 at 185lb against top 10 opponents.
he would be if whittaker wasn't around.
I like Yoel.
I have a question: How can you deny that he hasn't done some extremely fishy things?
It seems that you have a problem with reality.
How can Yoel be the GOAT with his track record?
I like Yoel.
Unlike you, I have no problem with reality.
Yoel has done some very questionable things that take him out of the GOAT conversation in my opinion.
You may disagree, fine with me.
I thought he lost to Jacare, at best had a draw if you give the first round a 10-8 for Romero.
You have low standards.
I didn't think he beat Jacare (even though the fight was really close), but that's second to the fact that Whitaker just beat Romero.
I guess my big question is why aren't you asking if Whitaker is the MW goat? That makes more sense since Whitaker just beat him and more convincingly beat Jacare.
People put too much into the sheer number of title defenses someone has. It's who you beat, not just how many people you beat. Weidman, Rockhold, and Jacare > Virtually anyone Silva ever beat. Just because there wasn't a championship on the line when he beat them doesn't make them any less significant. Most of Silva's opponents weren't that good in hindsight.
Considering the never won a the MW title?? No.because you got Anderson. Winning a title isnt everything, for example I regard Romero higher than Michael Bisping and Luke Rockhold now and they were champs. But Anderson was on top for 7 years and defended 10/11 times, that means he was the performing at the highest level possible and defending that title. Romero has been doing that as well fighting the best, but he's not doing it as champ.
Those fighters you're talking about weren't around at the time. Instead Silva beat Sonnen x2, Planted a beautiful foot in prime Vitor's face, beat Franklin x2, Maia, Cote, Leben, Henderson, and Laites. That is an impressive resume.
Well, Weidman was. He finished Anderson twice lol.
Jacare and Rockhold, I'm not sure Silva gets past either.
Good points except for the Kennedy fight.
Yoel did rest longer than he should have but it was Kennedy grabbing Yoel's gloves that allowed him to land those flush uppercuts in the first place.
BAsically ... Kennedy cheated first thus Yoel deserves a pass for cheating against the original cheater.
Bisping >>> Romero
Resume of good wins > title defenses for me.
It's hard to compare fighters from different eras, but when Anderson lost to Weidman, he'd already been fighting for sixteen years.
Bear in mind, many many knowledgeable boxing fans consider Sugar Ray Robinson the GOAT boxer, but I doubt many believe he'd beat modern boxers.
Most consecutive wins in the UFC (16)
Longest win streak in UFC history (16)
Whats the difference between these two?
As it stands no. He's technically not even the best of his era with the title loss to Whittaker. His legacy rides pretty heavily on that rematch
No it wasn't. People need to stop spreading this bullshit lie.
Forget Kennedy. It was Brunson who got the bad break:
I love how people want to declare a fighter who has no title defenses a GOAT. If Silva is eligible for GOAT, then it is not even close. If its not Silva, then Dan Henderson is the GOAT middleweight for his dominance in PRIDE.