Conor's win over Holloway is irrelevant

[MayhemMonkey]

Yeah, except Max has gotten way better while Conor has not. The Conor that fought Poirer was him at his peak. He’s not the same.

#FloydBless
#KhabibBless

so he was at his peak before levelling Aldo with one punch and making Eddie Alvarez his bitch?

 

[Bogeyman]

Holloway also took the fight on short notice, Andy Ogle was the original opponent for McGregor.

He was a replacement but not a short notice replacement. He was brought in two months from the fight.

 

[Pakman]

so he was at his peak before levelling Aldo with one punch and making Eddie Alvarez his bitch?

Eddie’s style is tailor made for Conor. Solid win no doubt.

And nothing can be determined from the Aldo fight except that he has good timing (which we’ve known) and power.

And yes, he was better prior to that. He fell in love with his “left hand” a little too much. And then he was beat by Nate Diaz, the first fighter who had the chin to take the shots.

And since, he barely scraped by Nate in a rematch (a fight in which he was literally RUNNING AWAY), then got mutilated by Floyd and mangled by Khabib.

He’s not at his peak now nor his best. He hasn’t been for some years. To suggest that he would beat Max now simply based on the fact he won 5 years ago is only things that nuthuggers or braindead morons (Which seems to apply here) would say.

Max is literally better than Conor in EVERY facet of the game sans punching power. That’s it.

 

[wlu.29]

his cardio isnt getting worse, he just grappled with one of the best grapplers the UFC has ever seen for 4 rounds. That shit is tiring.

Also he has improved everywhere. He handled Eddie Alvarez like he was a child(nobody has ever done that to Eddie) destroyed the aura around Aldo with one punch(you know the guy that Max has built his career of beating twice? yeah, it was Conor that prepped him for Max).

just because he had one bad performance doesnt mean he is regressing

his coach said it

 

[MayhemMonkey]

his coach said it

source?

 

[AIGOD]

Can we stop talking about it? Just like Mcgregor/Duffy. He's clearly a much different and better fighter now than when he was like 22 or 23. For Christ's sake, Holloway fought Mcgregor coming off a split decision loss to Dennis Fucking Bermudez. Do you think Bermudez would beat Holloway?

I'm a fan of both Mcgregor nd Holloway, but any retard can see he's changed.

Can a retard really? You seem mad people dont give a squirt about you bff colon.

 

[acannxr]

He was brought in two months from the fight.

Nope, one month notice.

 

[zippo88]

It's hard to predict this one if Mac and Max were to fight again. Max definitely grown a lot since their first fight and he is stronger, tougher and more experienced now. But still Conor is a better striker and Max's style is a lot more comfortable for McGregor than fighting a wrestler. The only problem with Conor now that he doesn't seem to be passionate about fighting anymore... He has money now and not a lot of motivation.

 

[wlu.29]

source?

“Khabib hit him with a punch in that fight that he has never been hit with in his career. And even Superman slows down at some stage.”


also the diaz fights showed that conor's lack of defence, being able to absorb punch rather than avoiding it

 

[MayhemMonkey]

Eddie’s style is tailor made for Conor. Solid win no doubt.

And nothing can be determined from the Aldo fight except that he has good timing (which we’ve known) and power.

And yes, he was better prior to that. He fell in love with his “left hand” a little too much. And then he was beat by Nate Diaz, the first fighter who had the chin to take the shots.

And since, he barely scraped by Nate in a rematch (a fight in which he was literally RUNNING AWAY), then got mutilated by Floyd and mangled by Khabib.

He’s not at his peak now nor his best. He hasn’t been for some years. To suggest that he would beat Max now simply based on the fact he won 5 years ago is only things that nuthuggers or braindead morons (Which seems to apply here) would say.

Max is literally better than Conor in EVERY facet of the game sans punching power. That’s it.

"literally running away" ahahahaha. You mean the few times he disengaged that didnt even take up 1 minute of time in a 25 minute fight? What happened for the other 24 and a half minutes? I remember him dropping Nate multiple times. But lets just talk about the "running away" eh?

You seem to overlook the fact that the biggest wins of Max's career are over a guy who had his soul destroyed by Conor. In a division that Conor already conquered. He has looked good with Conors hand me downs. But stepping up to fight Conor again isnt the smartest move for him(except to get paid). You can try and convince yourself all you want. But as Max says ....... It is what it is.

 

[Luvhawky]

well it signifies that it was recent enough to still be relevant.

No, but if they fought again the other times they fought would be relevant when discussing the fight

The UFC has been around since 93, if you are just using it as a time relevance than anything after 93 is relevant to potential matchups in the near future...is that what you are trying to say?

 

[Zanmato]

McGregor still has reach and power on Holloway. It's not an easy fight but nothing has happened to suggest that Holloway would have the tools to beat him if they fought again

 

[MayhemMonkey]

“Khabib hit him with a punch in that fight that he has never been hit with in his career. And even Superman slows down at some stage.”


also the diaz fights showed that conor's lack of defence, being able to absorb punch rather than avoiding it

context is key. He was talking about Conor possibly fighting again and needing to show him that he is still hungry and his head is in the game. He isnt saying that Conor IS slowing down, he was posing a hypothetical.

 

[MayhemMonkey]

The UFC has been around since 93, if you are just using it as a time relevance than anything after 93 is relevant to potential matchups in the near future...is that what you are trying to say?

have both of the fighters in question fought in the UFC since 93?

Also the zuffa era is what I consider the UFC. that NHB shit was fun but not the same sport we watch today.

 

[ExitLUPin]

Max wasnt even a top 20 and prolly 30 FW at the time lol. He had literally just lost to Dennis Bermudez the fight before, robbed Leonard "Robber" Garcia of all ppl of a win the fight before that, and 2 fights before that got finished by Dustin in the 1st round

2013 Max Holloway is nowhere close to a gureat FW, never mind elite. Anyone who thinks that fight indicates much of anything has autism

 

[lepsahekim]

It's not irrelevant, but it becomes less relevant every day as Conor's time as an elite fighter draws to a close

Every former pride fighter trades wins and loses in UFC and Connor haters still say they are elite. Conor loses one title fight to an undefeated fighter and he’s no longer elite.

 

[wlu.29]

context is key. He was talking about Conor possibly fighting again and needing to show him that he is still hungry and his head is in the game. He isnt saying that Conor IS slowing down, he was posing a hypothetical.

ok so even if you park the improvement part aside (even though it's pretty apparent that max has improved more)

his coach is saying that conor is not as hungry as before, that in the spirit of this thread holds true

max is hungrier than ever, conor is not

and bringing up the aldo fight is about as relevant as saying that JDS vs. Cain 1 was evident that JDS was the better fighter, all in all irrelevant

 

[C0NCH3TO]

It is relevant in terms of Mcgregor’s career. One more name to his resume, nobody can take that away from the guy.

Is it relevant to determine the outcome of a rematch? Absolutely not lol...Whether Mcgregor or Holloway wins that one ...It would be a totally different fight , these two are different today.

 

[MayhemMonkey]

ok so even if you park the improvement part aside (even though it's pretty apparent that max has improved more)

his coach is saying that conor is not as hungry as before, that in the spirit of this thread holds true

max is hungrier than ever, conor is not

and bringing up the aldo fight is about as relevant as saying that JDS vs. Cain 1 was evident that JDS was the better fighter, all in all irrelevant

no he isnt, he is saying that he thinks he may not be hungry anymore because he is rich as fuck and that Conor needs to prove to him that he is if he is to coach him for a fight again.

JK isnt making any claims about Conor in that interview. He is posing hypotheticals as I stated earlier.

Max can be as hungry as he wants, he'd still lose

 

[Pakman]

"literally running away" ahahahaha. You mean the few times he disengaged that didnt even take up 1 minute of time in a 25 minute fight? What happened for the other 24 and a half minutes? I remember him dropping Nate multiple times. But lets just talk about the "running away" eh?

You seem to overlook the fact that the biggest wins of Max's career are over a guy who had his soul destroyed by Conor. In a division that Conor already conquered. He has looked good with Conors hand me downs. But stepping up to fight Conor again isnt the smartest move for him(except to get paid). You can try and convince yourself all you want. But as Max says ....... It is what it is.

No i meant the times he was actually RUNNING away. You can spin it how you want, he was literally RUNNING away.

And in the other 24 and a half minutes, he barely won the fight. He dropped Nate a few times, and got beat up on the feet himself. So much so, that he had to RUN AWAY!!!.

And “had his soul taken by Conor”, yet, beat Frankie after, beat Stephens etcetc. His soul is definitely “taken”.

You can try to convince yourself all you want that Conor is as amazing as the blowjobs you dream of giving him, and that Max has no shot because he lost 5 years ago, but, the reality is, they are very different fighters than before on very different career trajectories.

Conor isn’t the one on the rise just so we are clear.