Bisping is better than Forrest Griffin

[Logan M]

Not that hard to figure that out, because Forrest Goofin overall fucking sucked.

Got to admit he was competent in the Rampage fight, though.

Forrest is a pretty bad fighter who was lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time.

Bisping >>>>>

How the fuck do people go around saying Forrest Griffin is a bad fighter? He beat Shogun and Rampage back to back when they were each ranked #1 in the world. The way Anderson beat him was and will remain impressive no matter what revisionist bullshit people try to babble.

 

[pilgrim4702]

GSP vs. Silva would look like sonnen silva 1 except gsp would walk away with the lopsided decision

If gsp believed that he would have fought silva. But like a coward, he pussed out and went for career defining victories against koschek 2 and Dan hardy , and a controversial decision against Hendricks (I felt gsp won, for the record), none of whom could he finish, while silva finished Chael TWICE. Gsp was shook, embrace reality.

 

[XThe GreatestX]

At what?

 

[pilgrim4702]

How the fuck do people go around saying Forrest Griffin is a bad fighter? He beat Shogun and Rampage back to back when they were each ranked #1 in the world. The way Anderson beat him was and will remain impressive no matter what revisionist bullshit people try to babble.

I see your point, and people shouldn't try and diminish silvas win vs Forrest, something gsp could never do (go up in weight/ and or get a finish at any weight), but Forrest in general, sucked. Win over rampage was as least-dominant as it gets, KTFO loss to the overrated-rashad, jardine, and shogun 2 along w the loss to silva is more telling of his abilities than his wins

 

[XThe GreatestX]

GSP has the most overrated resume in MMA history filled with one dimensional fighters and natural LWs. WW was weak and overrated during GSPs reign.

You think his wins over 5'4" Sherk and Serra, natural FW Penn, and one dimensional Dan "lost 4 in a row" Hardy screams strong resume/division?

He could have easily went to MW for a "showcase fight" instead of defending the belt against Hardy. GSP never moved up in weight for a reason. GSP knows.

Oof...embarrassing post

 

[Perrichet]

GSP never moved up one weight division and fought during his prime like Anderson did 3X for a reason. He knew that he would be made to tap to strikes again.

Aldo never moved up one division because he knew he'd get destroyed again. Not many midget wrestlers at LW for him to beat on.

Anderson fought scrubs like Bonnar, Irvin and Griffin. Ducked Jones and Shogun. Fact. He knew he'd get destroyed.

GSP was expected to fight Anderson (the long reigning champion) and now potentially Bisping who is current. champion. Levels

 

[OldBoy91]

Yeah he is better. That's a compliment though, Forrest was great.

 

[neverwas]

If you want to be technical Anderson went up three divisions for that fight. Anderson used to fight at a hundred and sixty something pounds

yet people point the finger at overeem for putting muscle and going up one division.

 

[nostradumbass]

Why are people on here pretending Forrest sucked? The guy was champ at 205 when the division was as its deepest, and was up 2 rounds to none on Rashad when he lost the title. His style wasn't flashy but it was effective enough to beat Rampage and finish Shogun.

 

[tmnpothead]

Why must shertards always try to discredit former champs?

 

[cheesus]

Fuck too many casuals on these boards.

 

[LordMayorMuffSniff]

I think it's fcking hilarious how Bisping and GSP are fighting to each other.

But, it's just as fcking hilarious as Silva fans touting his victory over the world class competition of Forrest Griffin, Stephan Bonnar and James Irvin, as an example of him moving up a weight class and fighting a tough competition, especially for Forrest since he was 'an ex-champion'

Silva fans should shut the fuck up about GSP not fighting Silva who didn't look undersized against Cormier, when Silva is being best friends with Jon Jones, who would've raped his ass.

I think Silva, if any thing, is the GOAT at being friends with guys who would beat him stylistically, and getting caught for roid that didn't have any clinical significance for his recovery, and blaming it on thai dick pills. World class athlete in late 30's needing dick pills, the greatest of all time apaprently, needing thai dick pills, awesome, and believable...as a reason for testing positive for roids

This gave you away as a troll. Silva weighed in at 197lb. Cormier was north of 230lb's on fight night. His words.

 

[JustOnce]

This gave you away as a troll. Silva weighed in at 197lb. Cormier was north of 230lb's on fight night. His words.

Silva once said he cuts from 230

And people DO lose muscle mass as they get older, especially given how Silva had a surgery not that long ago, and maybe USADA who knows, he did piss hot for roids and then blamed it on thai dick pill when that roid had nothing to do with his recovery

 

[Cylence]

People shit on Forrest, but his back to back wins over Shogun and Rampage are better than any two wins in Bisping's entire career.

Also, another poster in this thread is correct. Hindsight is why Silva's victory over Forrest isn't more highly regarded than it is. At the time, Forrest was universally considered to be a top five light heavyweight. Some had him top three. He was one fight removed from being champion for fucks sake. It was a great win by Silva, considering the overall landscape of LHW at the time.

 

[potemkin723]

Bisping is more technical, but Griffin is more respectable and not a coward.

 

[moreorless87]

How the fuck do people go around saying Forrest Griffin is a bad fighter? He beat Shogun and Rampage back to back when they were each ranked #1 in the world. The way Anderson beat him was and will remain impressive no matter what revisionist bullshit people try to babble.

Definitely not a bad fighter although IMHO a fighter who often had a rather glass heart but he caught Shogun fighting with an ACL injury and matched up very well with Rampage due to his lack of lowkick defence. He lost to a fit Shogun even more quickly than vs Anderson as well as to Jardine, at no point was he really the best LHW in the world no matter what the rankings say.

Career wise I'd agree Bisping has surpassed him although actually in a fight between them I might favour Forrest since Bisping would likely play his points game but be giving up a good deal of size, ala the FRanklin fight.

 

[moreorless87]

Bisping is more technical, but Griffin is more respectable and not a coward.

Forrest avoided Machida didn't he? plus had a rather questionable injury to avoid Lil Nog. He's also clearly not as tough as Bisping is folding too easily several times and fell to bits mentally vs Anderson.

 

[djacobox372]

It wasn't THAT anderson beat forrest, it was HOW he did it.

Sort of the opposite of how Bisping "beat" Henderson.

you should try watching fights and not just looking at names on a list.

 

[Ibm]

Bisping is probably the top 3 highest level strikers in MMA. When will people finally see this. He is sooo underrated.

 

[potemkin723]

Forrest avoided Machida didn't he? plus had a rather questionable injury to avoid Lil Nog. He's also clearly not as tough as Bisping is folding too easily several times and fell to bits mentally vs Anderson.

I don't think Griffin ducked them, but I can assure you that Bisping ducked the entire MW division.