Better lockdown defender: Jordan or Kobe | Page 2

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  1. iwhoopedbatman Fox Hunter Extraordinaire

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    I feel like it was more than 5 or 6 years, but that's completely me trying to remember. But I feel like he waited until Shaq left. I only remember this because I remember feeling like as soon as Shaq left, he didn't feel the need to show out all the time to prove he was taking over the team. But I could be off a few years in either direction. He definitely stopped worrying about the regular season sometime around there.

    I always found his career long refusal to take a charge a bigger issue. Taking charges, or at least being in position to take them to dissuade drivers is too important and vital to just refuse to do it. So he's always lost points from me for that. Not that Jordan took a ton of them (Pippen took way, way more), but he didn't outright refuse.
     
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    Early in his career didn't he not play defense as hard in order to be able to run offense in Qtr 4?
     
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    The knock on him has been that he's too busy carrying his team on both ends for 3 quarters and runs out of steam in the 4th.
     
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    Kd would disagree.
     
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    Gotta go with Jordan because he could guard the post. Kobe just got pushed around.
     
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    Kobe just for this gif [​IMG]

    Honestly I enjoy bringing up Kobe as the all time misses leader but if I were a hardcore fan I would just always reply with this gif to anything involving him
     
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    Close enough to be a wash.

    As far as guards though, Gary Payton was better than both. Hell, if Payton guards jordan all games of the '96 finals, the 72 win bulls probably don't win the title. Payton didn't guard Jordan until they were down 3-0. The Sonics proceeded to win 2 of the next 3, and Jordan put up very subpar number with the glove locking him down.
     
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    Is that why he joined a 73-9 team that he was up 3-1 on in the WCF? He wasn't scared of them, he was scared of LeBron.

    LeBron shut down an MVP PG in the playoffs better than Kobe did(Jordan never defended an MVP well).

    What chance would Jordan or Kobe have against Durant? LeBron fares far better than either of them would.
     
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    I'm not saying KD ain't a turncoat. But, he did dribble by Lebron at will. Lebron has no on ball defense. All of his great defensive plays are him playing linebacker or safety type defense. Lebron ain't no DB.
     
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    Who is this MVP point guard?
     
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    Well duh Lebron is 6’9”. He better be better at defending 7’0” Durant.
     
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    New rules. Also more talented players. They can shoot AND drive, unlike those that jordan and kobe played. Imagine LeBron being able to hand check
    D Rose
    Man, what a great linebacking/safety third defender.
     
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    Nothing wrong with being a great help guy. But, if you want to be elite defender you have to be able to defend on ball.
     
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    Hilarious effort to say the least...

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    LMAO at one play

    There is actually a top 5 devoted to Iverson crossing up Kobe:

     
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    LMAO at this. If mark Jord played against Gay I as long as one true than there would be a top 100 of him getting crossed up.
     
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