Al Snow says all matches in Pancrase were 100% works

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    agree/disagree? Guys were hitting each other for real but there were predetermined outcomes. Guys wouldn't crank submissions unless it was a finish, KOs were called by the ref and a fighter would simply turn and give up and fall to strikes.
     
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    Atleast his brother Jon isnt involved in any of that fake shit.
     
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    I'm glad the UFC would never do anything like that. I like my finishes 100% real dammit!

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    i'd love to see him tell Bas that his fights were all predetermined. that would be fun to watch.
     
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    He was talking about UWF you stupid fuck. FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS
     
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    what did you mean by this?
     
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    Pancrase was the bridge between Pro Wrestling and MMA, early 90ies, obviously a lot were works.
     
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    heh. damn TS.
     
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    man me and my older brother were sayin that shit way before we knew what it was. war attitude era.
     
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    He's not talking about pancrace, he's talking about UWFI which was strong style Puroresu, which eventually lead to the Pancrase league.

    This is what he was taking about.



    If you're interested here's a history lesson of how pro wrestling eventually became MMA (credit to @shinobimusashi )


    It all goes back to Karl Gotch and Billy Robinson, who trained together in old school catch wrestling, both went their different ways in the pro wrestling world and ultimately both of them ended up in Japan training pro wrestlers.

    Gotch trained Yoshiaki Fujiwara, who trained Suzuki and Funaki, who recruited and trained Ken Shamrock, Frank Shamrock, and Rutten, going on to found Pancrase. Robinson would train most of the UWFI wrestlers that would go on to become Pride.

    I don't think a lot of modern fans really understand the influence that Rings had on Pride. Pride basically swallowed up Rings, took their best fighters(Fedor, Overeem, etc), stole their ideas, then put them out of business in 2002, right around the time that Pride really started to kick ass.

    The guy who founded Rings, Akira Maeda is connected to Takada, Fujiwara, and Tiger Mask. Those four guys all came out of the same dojo and basically laid the groundwork for what MMA would become. Their bidding war over Rickson Gracie would basically shape the history of MMA.

    If you take away pro wrestling's direct influence on MMA history, you take away Ken Shamrock, Dan Severn, Suzuki, Funaki, Frank Shamrock, Bas Rutten, Sakuraba, Takada, Fedor, Pancrase, Pride, Rings, Shooto never happens. I think it's safe to say that maybe MMA never happens, especially when you consider the influence that pro wrestling had on Mitsuyo Maeda, who taught the Gracies how to grapple.

    Maeda was living in a YMCA in Alabama at one point during his travels, learning tricks of the trade from the pro wrestlers he befriended in the 1900's. He basically taught the Gracie's Judo with some old school pro wrestling tricks and submissions worked into it. I mean, if you take all of that away, where does that leave MMA?
     
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    Unless shamrock says it I don't believe that shit

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