**2017-18 NBA Regular Season Thread v9: Raptors - Contenders or Pretenders?

How far do the craps go?

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“The last 3 years people seem to worry about the cavs in the regular season. Leroids waits until the playoffs until he goes final form.”Wooha, it’s gotten even better. Kyrie broke his vagina.
 
Gunners said:
A message from Jayson Tatum to the pretenders: Simmons, Kuzma, Mitchell and Ball. They are not good players.
Post#1 » by Celtics_History_Lesson » Yesterday 6:47 am

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ESPN - "That Lonzo is so good. It's Lonzo Wednesday. Lonzo, he is famous, we say so."

When he shoots the ball it is more likely to hit the side of the backboard or Dyan Cannon's face, ESPN doesn't mention that.


TNT - "Ben Simmons, he is so good, so skilled, he got a triple-double."

He hits half his free throws. He can't shoot from outside 7 or 8 feet. The so-called triple-doubles, nearly all against stink teams. The Bulls, the Bulls again, Hornets, Pistons, Lakers, Knicks. Yeah, this turnover machine is really doing well against the elite of the league.


KZNS - "Man, that Mitchell Donovan, he is the biggest thing in basketball here since Morris Almond or Kirk Snyder. Look at all those points."

The tweener takes 7 more shots per game than Tatum does to have less of an impact on a game. Mitchell even shoots more than rookie Antoine Walker did. If you have more volume shooting than The Volume Shooter, that is volume shooting.




If you get the ball in the basket more efficiently, you are much better than volume shooters or bricklayers.

True Shooting Percentage


Jayson Tatum 58.9%

Ben Simmons 55%

Kyle Kuzma 54.6%

Donovan Mitchell 54.2%

Lonzo Ball 44.4%




Volume shooters are volume shooters as they shoot with more volume. Not the volume sound, but the amount of shots they heave.

Shots per 36 minutes:


Donovan Mitchell 18.3

Kyle Kuzma 15.6

Ben Simmons 13.3

Jayson Tatum 12

Lonzo Ball 11.5




A rookie who can defend is swell to have, especially one who was in the NCAA one day and in the NBA a few months later.

Defensive Rating:


Jayson Tatum 104

Ben Simmons 104

Donovan Mitchell 105

Lonzo Ball 105

Kyle Kuzma 109




Wouldn't it be amazing if the best rookie at defense was also the best rookie at offense.

Offensive Rating:


Jayson Tatum 112

Ben Simmons 109

Kyle Kuzma 105

Donovan Mitchell 103

Lonzo Ball 97




A rookie who can play is shown by a rookie who doesn't pass the ball to the other team, as they have poise, and poise counts.

Turnovers per 36 minutes:


Jayson Tatum 1.6

Kyle Kuzma 2.0

Lonzo Ball 2.8

Donovan Mitchell 3.0

Ben Simmons 3.6




Range, a way to show how skilled a player is.

3point percentage:


Jayson Tatum 42.9%

Kyle Kuzma 36.6%

Donovan Mitchell 33.8%

Lonzo Ball 31.5%

Ben Simmons 0.0000%




Rigged media and rigged others rigging the rigged Rookie of the Year vote.

Simmons wins. Mitchell second. Ball and Kuzma, Smith and Markkanen, Fox and J Collins, some or all being pushed ahead of Tatum.

You put Tatum out there with Dillon Brooks, Jabari Bird, Jarrett Allen and Zach Collins they would defeat a team of all of the above.

What an ugly team, Simmons and Ball shooting free throws, Smith and Fox chucking away, Kuzma and Mitchell never passing, while Lauri and John wait for a ball that never comes their way.


People complain about OJ not going to jail, OJ Mayo that is, but Tatum not getting the meaningless Rookie award would be a bigger travesty. If a Celtic wins, Bird, Cowens, Heinsohn, the award does have some meaning to the world.


I am sure some of the other rookies are solid players, but compared to Tatum they are not good. Huge, giant, terrible weaknesses, that is what the annointed Simmons and Lonzo and others have. Tatum, playing like an efficient All-Star at three positions and with no weaknesses, except sometimes Nader is on the floor with him.


Done with the NBA, and the rigged anti-Tatum agenda. Won't watch another game unless the Raptors or Cavs lose the next game they play, as they are bigger frauds than Simmons or Lonzo.



Simmons can't do this:
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Simmons can't do this, hit a 3:
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Simmons can't do this, and whatever it is it is superb.
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"Weaknesses", how stupid do those people feel now?
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Ben Simmons sometimes removes his clothing on the court.
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If Philadelphia fans won a frozen dessert when Simmons missed two free throws, a business selling frozen desserts would be bankrupt.
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His real rookie year.
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Look, Simmons is a star, he is just like Curry.
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Simmons sometimes tries to shoot threes at practice, and then they have to fix all the damage.
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His shot isn't as bad as Simmons' outside shot?
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Just Markelle, standing there, wondering what that round object is.
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"Donovan, you shoot and miss too much."
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"Donovan, I spend two hours a day styling my hair, and you shoot the ball too much."
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"Maybe I am just a volume shooter?"
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It’s so dope that Houston is like WTF. Golden State is so injured that KD and Stephanie want a break. LeRoids is gonna 42 minutes on all these fools and be MVP calibur.
 
Memphis knows how to fucking tank.

Unfortunately, they don't know how to draft. So it doesn't really matter.
 
Bargey said:
He hasn’t done as much as Kuzma or Markannen. He perhaps belongs in the top 5 but there’s a probably at least 10 rookies in this class who I think will be better than him in 2 years time. He just seems stiff and nervous - the kind of player that will probably never be an all star but a solid rotation piece.
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Lmfao at Kuzma being better than him
 
This is the only bad part of the yoffs almost being here.
 
Memphis will be in a good spot if they hit on their pick

Conley & Gasol & Pick will be good enough to fight for the playoffs (which their owners obviously want) and in 3 years when Conleys horrible contract is off the roster the pick will be ready to carry the team on his own with a ton of cap space
 
TheTimeIsNotNow said:
Memphis will be in a good spot if they hit on their pick

Conley & Gasol & Pick will be good enough to fight for the playoffs (which their owners obviously want) and in 3 years when Conleys horrible contract is off the roster the pick will be ready to carry the team on his own with a ton of cap space
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That's a big ass "If" my friend. I'd love for it to work out that way, but even if they get a Doncic or Ayton...I expect them to fuck it all up somehow
 
this is the same injury prone Kyrie that we all knew before Lebron. Boston better get used to it.
 
Bozo ball just missed another 3. lmao
 
How is your dad gonna be a former NBA player, train you and let you shoot like that all your life???

lol
 
berimBOWLoh said:
How is your dad gonna be a former NBA player, train you and let you shoot like that all your life???

lol
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He wasn't a former NBA player... he played college ball at Cal State LA which just about any 6'5 man could do.

And it's pretty clear that Lavar Ball can't shoot to save his life so when Lonzo actually made a shot, Lavar was amazed and had him just keep doing what sort of worked, because Lavar has zero knowledge on the matter.
 
Luminaire said:
He wasn't a former NBA player... he played college ball at Cal State LA which just about any 6'5 man could do.

And it's pretty clear that Lavar Ball can't shoot to save his life so when Lonzo actually made a shot, Lavar was amazed and had him just keep doing what sort of worked, because Lavar has zero knowledge on the matter.
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Lavars ego is also so big he wouldnt bring in a shooting coach when everybody started mentioning how slow and awkward Lonzos shot is??

Lonzo so lacking of his own fortitude and character he didnt wanna change it up a bit either??


its crazy to reach the NBA level and be putting up shots like that lol straight up embarrassing.
 
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