Opinion Zuby's "20 Things I've Learned About Humanity During The Pandemic"

[StoneColdSteveAustin]

Why you in here dildoing the place up? Don't you have some hair transplant videos to watch?

I already responded to the thread. Try and keep up. I know reading is something you’re not good at but give it a try.

 

[heloder]

Sounds like it hit a little too close to home.

That post combined with your username is just too good not to quote. Because not unlike Nostradamus, this dude listed generic shit that could apply to basically anybody's "side" and seem wise and prophetic in retrospect, when in reality it's just mostly shit. Let's see here:

1/ Most people would rather be in the majority, than be right.

This has been known for thousands of years.

2/ At least 20% of the population has strong authoritarian tendencies, which will emerge under the right conditions.

At least 20% is a pretty vague and meaningless statistic. Well I hesitate to call it a statistic, since it was pulled straight out of his ass. I'd say it's far higher than 20% judging by this forum alone. But hey, which "side" is he referring to? Pro tip: Whichever one you want!

3/ Fear of death is only rivalled by the fear of social disapproval. The latter could be stronger.

This is a repeat of #1.

4/ Propaganda is just as effective in the modern day as it was 100 years ago. Access to limitless information has not made the average person any wiser.

The political divide in this country absolutely proves this statement false. If propaganda were just as effective now as it was 100 years ago, there would be no such divide.

5/ Anything and everything can and will be politicised by the media, government, and those who trust them.

This is a stupid, meaningless statement. Anything and everything is pretty fucking all-encompassing, and the way its worded, apparently the only people that don't politicize things are those who don't trust the government, which is demonstrably false.

6/ Many politicians and large corporations will gladly sacrifice human lives if it is conducive to their political and financial aspirations.

Again, this is common knowledge going back thousands of years.

7/ Most people believe the government acts in the best interests of the people. Even many who are vocal critics of the government.

Another meaningless statement meant to reach the retards who lack critical thinking and get their heads nodding. Is he saying the government has never acted in the best interest of the people? Is he saying most people believe the government always acts in the best interest of the people? That they do so a majority of the time? You see, when you actually read the statement, it's kind of hard to decipher the point of it, isn't it?

8/ Once they have made up their mind, most people would rather to commit to being wrong, than admit they were wrong.

Common knowledge. I learned this about people when I was a child.

9/ Humans can be trained and conditioned quickly and relatively easily to significantly alter their behaviours - for better or worse.

I hear tell that if it rains you can quickly train people to use umbrellas. Those sheep.

10/ When sufficiently frightened, most people will not only accept authoritarianism, but demand it.

Those of you without the short term memory of an Alzheimer's patient may have noticed that this is a contradiction to #2. First it was at least 20%, and now it's "most people". I'm glad we've got this guy to give us a news flash that authoritarians use fear to gain power. It's only been littered throughout human history. Hey while we're at it, which "side" does this refer to? Pro tip: Whichever side you want!

11/ People who are dismissed as 'conspiracy theorists' are often well researched and simply ahead of the mainstream narrative.

Define "often". Because in my experience, people who are dismissed as conspiracy theorists are often absolute morons with a very poor grasp on the subject. But those retard's heads will nod along with this one because it's exactly what they want to hear (even though it's utter horse shit).

12/ Most people value safety and security more than freedom and liberty, even if said 'safety' is merely an illusion.

Is he referring to those mask-wearing, socially distant sheeple on the left, or the homophobic, xenophobic, transphobic, anti-democracy Trumpanzees on the right? You choose!

In actual fact, nothing in 2020 demonstrated what he claims, as much as he wants to believe otherwise. It's not a black and white issue where people care about absolute freedom over the safety of the community, or vice versa. This imbecile just has no concept of subtlety (which is a growing trend).

13/ Hedonic adaptation occurs in both directions, and once inertia sets in, it is difficult to get people back to 'normal'.

This reads like someone who literally just heard of the phrase "Hedonic adaptation". It has been found in numerous studies that it's actually not difficult to get people back to "normal" after positive or negative events. That's the entire concept of Hedonic adaptation. So I'm really not sure what the hell he's talking about here. Do you?

14/ A significant % of people thoroughly enjoy being subjugated.

Another repeat of #2 and #10. Instead of "at least 20%" or "most people" it's "a significant % of people" though. Who's he referring to here, though? Gotta be Trump and his cult of lunatics, right?

15/ 'The Science' has evolved into a secular pseudo-religion for millions of people in the West. This religion has little to do with science itself.

Ah I never tire of the "Er, well Science is like a religion too!" chestnut that these shit-weasels like to trot out. Another meaningless statement with nothing to back it up.

16/ Most people care more about looking like they are doing the right thing, rather than actually doing the right thing.

A repeat of #1 and #3.

17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians.

Ah, now we get to the point in the bar-room conversation where the crazy-man who has all the people nodding their heads breaks out the "And everybody knows the government is controlled by shape-shifting aliens" claptrap.

18/ If you make people comfortable enough, they will not revolt. You can keep millions docile as you strip their rights, by giving them money, food, and entertainment.

Did he learn this from his late night sessions with Civilization V? Because I'm not sure how it applies to anything in 2020. I heard the people in North Korea haven't revolted because they're living in the lap of luxury out there.

19/ Modern people are overly complacent and lack vigilance when it comes to defending their own freedoms from government overreach.

Modern people huh? Pretty sure historical people had a bit more of a problem with authoritarian regimes trampling their freedoms. I know this, because I can read.

20/ It's easier to fool a person than to convince them that they have been fooled.

A repeat of #8, and stolen from actual smart people like Mark Twain and Carl Sagan.

 

[panamaican]

That post combined with your username is just too good not to quote. Because not unlike Nostradamus, this dude listed generic shit that could apply to basically anybody's "side" and seem wise and prophetic in retrospect, when in reality it's just mostly shit. Let's see here:

1/ Most people would rather be in the majority, than be right.

This has been known for thousands of years.

2/ At least 20% of the population has strong authoritarian tendencies, which will emerge under the right conditions.

At least 20% is a pretty vague and meaningless statistic. Well I hesitate to call it a statistic, since it was pulled straight out of his ass. I'd say it's far higher than 20% judging by this forum alone. But hey, which "side" is he referring to? Pro tip: Whichever one you want!

3/ Fear of death is only rivalled by the fear of social disapproval. The latter could be stronger.

This is a repeat of #1.

4/ Propaganda is just as effective in the modern day as it was 100 years ago. Access to limitless information has not made the average person any wiser.

The political divide in this country absolutely proves this statement false. If propaganda were just as effective now as it was 100 years ago, there would be no such divide.

5/ Anything and everything can and will be politicised by the media, government, and those who trust them.

This is a stupid, meaningless statement. Anything and everything is pretty fucking all-encompassing, and the way its worded, apparently the only people that don't politicize things are those who don't trust the government, which is demonstrably false.

6/ Many politicians and large corporations will gladly sacrifice human lives if it is conducive to their political and financial aspirations.

Again, this is common knowledge going back thousands of years.

7/ Most people believe the government acts in the best interests of the people. Even many who are vocal critics of the government.

Another meaningless statement meant to reach the retards who lack critical thinking and get their heads nodding. Is he saying the government has never acted in the best interest of the people? Is he saying most people believe the government always acts in the best interest of the people? That they do so a majority of the time? You see, when you actually read the statement, it's kind of hard to decipher the point of it, isn't it?

8/ Once they have made up their mind, most people would rather to commit to being wrong, than admit they were wrong.

Common knowledge. I learned this about people when I was a child.

9/ Humans can be trained and conditioned quickly and relatively easily to significantly alter their behaviours - for better or worse.

I hear tell that if it rains you can quickly train people to use umbrellas. Those sheep.

10/ When sufficiently frightened, most people will not only accept authoritarianism, but demand it.

Those of you without the short term memory of an Alzheimer's patient may have noticed that this is a contradiction to #2. First it was at least 20%, and now it's "most people". I'm glad we've got this guy to give us a news flash that authoritarians use fear to gain power. It's only been littered throughout human history. Hey while we're at it, which "side" does this refer to? Pro tip: Whichever side you want!

11/ People who are dismissed as 'conspiracy theorists' are often well researched and simply ahead of the mainstream narrative.

Define "often". Because in my experience, people who are dismissed as conspiracy theorists are often absolute morons with a very poor grasp on the subject. But those retard's heads will nod along with this one because it's exactly what they want to hear (even though it's utter horse shit).

12/ Most people value safety and security more than freedom and liberty, even if said 'safety' is merely an illusion.

Is he referring to those mask-wearing, socially distant sheeple on the left, or the homophobic, xenophobic, transphobic, anti-democracy Trumpanzees on the right? You choose!

In actual fact, nothing in 2020 demonstrated what he claims, as much as he wants to believe otherwise. It's not a black and white issue where people care about absolute freedom over the safety of the community, or vice versa. This imbecile just has no concept of subtlety (which is a growing trend).

13/ Hedonic adaptation occurs in both directions, and once inertia sets in, it is difficult to get people back to 'normal'.

This reads like someone who literally just heard of the phrase "Hedonic adaptation". It has been found in numerous studies that it's actually not difficult to get people back to "normal" after positive or negative events. That's the entire concept of Hedonic adaptation. So I'm really not sure what the hell he's talking about here. Do you?

14/ A significant % of people thoroughly enjoy being subjugated.

Another repeat of #2 and #10. Instead of "at least 20%" or "most people" it's "a significant % of people" though. Who's he referring to here, though? Gotta be Trump and his cult of lunatics, right?

15/ 'The Science' has evolved into a secular pseudo-religion for millions of people in the West. This religion has little to do with science itself.

Ah I never tire of the "Er, well Science is like a religion too!" chestnut that these shit-weasels like to trot out. Another meaningless statement with nothing to back it up.

16/ Most people care more about looking like they are doing the right thing, rather than actually doing the right thing.

A repeat of #1 and #3.

17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians.

Ah, now we get to the point in the bar-room conversation where the crazy-man who has all the people nodding their heads breaks out the "And everybody knows the government is controlled by shape-shifting aliens" claptrap.

18/ If you make people comfortable enough, they will not revolt. You can keep millions docile as you strip their rights, by giving them money, food, and entertainment.

Did he learn this from his late night sessions with Civilization V? Because I'm not sure how it applies to anything in 2020. I heard the people in North Korea haven't revolted because they're living in the lap of luxury out there.

19/ Modern people are overly complacent and lack vigilance when it comes to defending their own freedoms from government overreach.

Modern people huh? Pretty sure historical people had a bit more of a problem with authoritarian regimes trampling their freedoms. I know this, because I can read.

20/ It's easier to fool a person than to convince them that they have been fooled.

A repeat of #8, and stolen from actual smart people like Mark Twain and Carl Sagan.

 

[Holic]

A random UK rapper with less than 500k followers?

There are internet thots with more followers than him, perhaps we should get their opinions too.

How many of them have been guests on joe rogans podcast? Theres been entire threads with just youtube links to rogans interviews. Clearly several in this thread already know who this guy is.

Also this isnt the first wr thread about him.

 

[panamaican]

How many of them have been guests on joe rogans podcast? Theres been entire threads with just youtube links to rogans interviews. Clearly several in this thread already know who this guy is.

Also this isnt the first wr thread about him.

He was on Rogan's podcast?

Since when did an appearance on Joe Rogan's podcast make someone a credible source of political discourse or social observation?

 

[Holic]

He was on Rogan's podcast?

Since when did an appearance on Joe Rogan's podcast make someone a credible source of political discourse or social observation?

If you have some actual criteria I'm supposed to follow for these threads, I'm all ears. Especially since whatever you come up with probably won't meet the actual standard of existing wr threads.

 

[panamaican]

If you have some actual criteria I'm supposed to follow for these threads, I'm all ears. Especially since whatever you come up with probably won't meet the actual standard of existing wr threads.

There's no criteria. You do your best. We'll let you know how its coming along with appropriate comments and gifs.

Generally speaking, quality of sources matter. And celebrities commenting on things outside of their celebrity wheelhouse are pretty far down the list when it comes to source quality. Hence the Ja Rule joke further up. Perhaps you'll share Zuby's insights on tax policy next? His solutions for global warming? Wealth inequality? He is a rapper after all and he was on Rogan. He's pretty much qualified to opine on anything at all.

Don't take that too seriously.

 

[Eusung]

If you have some actual criteria I'm supposed to follow for these threads, I'm all ears. Especially since whatever you come up with probably won't meet the actual standard of existing wr threads.

Struck me as kind of odd that a moderator of a politics board doesn't seem to know about Zuby.

 

[StoneColdSteveAustin]

Is it okay to like celebrities again? I can’t keep up with this shit anymore.

 

[HomeCheese]

Zuby is a UK independent rapper, author, life & fitness coach, public speaker, and host of the 'Real Talk With Zuby' podcast. He has 439,000 twitter followers and has appeared on Joe Rogan's podcast. The list below is a thread he posted on twitter.

"@ZubyMusic
20 Things I've Learned (Or Had Confirmed) About Humanity During The 'Pandemic' :

1/ Most people would rather be in the majority, than be right.

2/ At least 20% of the population has strong authoritarian tendencies, which will emerge under the right conditions.

3/ Fear of death is only rivalled by the fear of social disapproval. The latter could be stronger.

4/ Propaganda is just as effective in the modern day as it was 100 years ago. Access to limitless information has not made the average person any wiser.

5/ Anything and everything can and will be politicised by the media, government, and those who trust them.

6/ Many politicians and large corporations will gladly sacrifice human lives if it is conducive to their political and financial aspirations.

7/ Most people believe the government acts in the best interests of the people. Even many who are vocal critics of the government.

8/ Once they have made up their mind, most people would rather to commit to being wrong, than admit they were wrong.

9/ Humans can be trained and conditioned quickly and relatively easily to significantly alter their behaviours - for better or worse.

10/ When sufficiently frightened, most people will not only accept authoritarianism, but demand it.

11/ People who are dismissed as 'conspiracy theorists' are often well researched and simply ahead of the mainstream narrative.

12/ Most people value safety and security more than freedom and liberty, even if said 'safety' is merely an illusion.

13/ Hedonic adaptation occurs in both directions, and once inertia sets in, it is difficult to get people back to 'normal'.

14/ A significant % of people thoroughly enjoy being subjugated.

15/ 'The Science' has evolved into a secular pseudo-religion for millions of people in the West. This religion has little to do with science itself.

16/ Most people care more about looking like they are doing the right thing, rather than actually doing the right thing.

17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians.

18/ If you make people comfortable enough, they will not revolt. You can keep millions docile as you strip their rights, by giving them money, food, and entertainment.

19/ Modern people are overly complacent and lack vigilance when it comes to defending their own freedoms from government overreach.

20/ It's easier to fool a person than to convince them that they have been fooled.

Bonus thought: 21/ Most people are fairly compassionate and have good intentions (this is good)
As a result, most people deeply struggle to understand that some people, including our 'leaders', CAN have malicious or perverse intentions (this is bad)."


Agree/Disagree? Why?

The writer of this list sounds severely depressed.

 

[Plissken]

Yeah, a lot of those are spot on unfortunately.

 

[BIKES!]

I have no idea who that guy is but not seeing anything I disagree with

edit nevermind. 11 is def wrong.

Yeah not like the Democrat Party and Fauci declared Covid 19 being possibly created in a Wuhan Lab immediately a CT.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

1/ Most people would rather be in the majority, than be right.

Agree/Disagree? Why?

Disagree with this one. I think most people would rather pick a side with significant numbers of people but it doesn't have to be a majority. That's why people tend to be extreme one way or the other on topics.

 

[RemyR]

Yeah not like the Democrat Party and Fauci declared Covid 19 being possibly created in a Wuhan Lab immediately a CT.

Yeah that was pretty dumb

 

[spamking]

This thread is a perfect summary of the War Room . . . can't wait to see how it plays out throughout today . . .

 

[BIKES!]

A random UK rapper with less than 500k followers?

There are internet thots with more followers than him, perhaps we should get their opinions too.

CNN is averaging 400k viewers. Obviously those with an IQ above 50 don’t consider them a source of anything but people have heard of them.

 

[ElKarlo]

A random UK rapper with less than 500k followers?

There are internet thots with more followers than him, perhaps we should get their opinions too.

Dude, do you do anything but deflect nowadays?

 

[panamaican]

Dude, do you do anything but deflect nowadays?

Yes. Like here, I'm not deflecting. I'm pointing out the low quality of the source. When people stop posting empty bullshit, I stop commenting on how empty the bullshit is. If you want to treat every random internet story or tweet as worthy of comment, go ahead. I think it's drivel and treat it as such.

But if you want some of my other posting:

Its good that they're going to get private lending to handle their debts but it's kind of in line with my earlier points about not being proactive here. If they can get private lending now, why couldn't they get it before? The EU could have facilitated this type of loan in the first place.

No sympathy. If you read the decision, he knew that the treatment was a violation of dental hygienist law. Another guy told him it was okay because there was an exemption for dental hygienists, so he did it. That's stupid. He should have verified the information before acting on it. And if he had looked into it, he would have found out that no such exemption was ever passed into law.

If you're a professional and you know something violates the rules, you don't just take someone else's word for it that the rules have changed.

Here's a thread I started on parallels between Chinese and U.S. responses to capitalism and work practices:
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/china-tangping-movement.4192507/

since you're also hyper-partisan - here's a post where I point out that Biden does not deserve credit for the job growth.

I don't give Biden any credit for this since he inherited a pandemic induced train wreck where the only direction to go was up.

Similarly, I don't give Trump any credit for his job growth because he was eating off Obama's policy choices.

Don't be mad at me that you've lowered your standards to such a degree that you'll accept anything as newsworthy.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

i must be old, i never heard of this guy.

 

[Holic]

A lot of this is correct, it is a question about whether people on this forum have enough self reflection to see it in themselves. When a Trumpster is cheering on this list it shows they don't.

Actually that's a good point. A few years ago I would've been way more libertarian and understanding about most stuff. Now that I'm staring down life in a communist dictatorship I'm fine with making Trump emperor. Now that I've seen the malice and lies surrounding abortion, I want it outlawed. These are authoritarian reactions, but they're not unreasonable ones.