your thoughts on driving checkpoints

[llperez22]

The thread is 'your thoughts on random checkpoints' not 'your thoughts on the arbitrary measure of blood alcohol content'

But I see your angle, you're a weirdo who thinks you should be able to drink and drive as long as you can stay in your lane. Sorry I don't subscribe to that stupid point of view.

you didnt answer my question. Is a thread about giving out du'is at random checkpoints a completely separate tangent from blood alcohol content? You brought it up and said they are completely different subjects. Regardless of whether you agree with my opinions on things, are you saying dui's at checkpoints and blood alcohol contents are completely different subjects?

 

[Rvd Slmr]

It's legal to use a cell phone while driving in the States ? WTF ? It's totally forbiden in my country unless you are using handsfree kit. Shit is dangerous as hell.

 

[Snackbar]

maybe you have never drank and drove, but im guessing you would lose numerous friends and family members to roadside execution if you had your way.

As someone who has lost a loved one to a drunk driver I will say, your are the dumbest motherfucker I have ever come across on here.

Most responsible adults do not drink and drive, nor do they text and drive,even before distracted driving laws came into effect.

Texting and driving is for dipshit teenage girls, and drinking and driving is for irresponsible wastes of air. The fact that you even argue the point is mind boggling.

 

[llperez22]

It's legal to use a cell phone while driving in the States ? WTF ? It's totally forbiden in my country unless you are using handsfree kit. Shit is dangerous as hell.

accidents due to cell phone use have far surpassed accidents due to alcohol use. There are studies showing reaction times decreasing by 3x more when texting while driving vs people who are in the range of .08-.10 inebriated. Cell phone use is a far greater danger to road accidents yet doesn't receive a fraction of the punishment or negative stigma that drinking and driving does.

 

[Kevin Rudd]

you didnt answer my question. Is a thread about giving out du'is at random checkpoints a completely separate tangent from blood alcohol content? You brought it up and said they are completely different subjects. Regardless of whether you agree with my opinions on things, are you saying dui's at checkpoints and blood alcohol contents are completely different subjects?

Actually you never answered my initial question about why the misleading thread. If you wanted it to be about BAC why not present your argument in the OP?

I can't work out whether you are trolling or truly believe drink driving is fine as long as you can stay in your lane. Fucked up either way.

 

[llperez22]

As someone who has lost a loved one to a drunk driver I will say, your are the dumbest motherfucker I have ever come across on here.

Most responsible adults do not drink and drive, nor do they text and drive,even before distracted driving laws came into effect.

Texting and driving is for dipshit teenage girls, and drinking and driving is for irresponsible wastes of air. The fact that you even argue the point is mind boggling.

ive never harmed a soul nor will i ever. If you are unable to drive due to drinking, then dont drive, period. The argument here is that drinking=/= unable to drive. If that were the case, then you could go to any of the countless bars in america and witness first hand people driving recklessly left and right. It would be everywhere. The fact you dont shows that there are different levels of driving impairment and not all should be treated equally.

 

[llperez22]

Actually you never answered my initial question about why the misleading thread. If you wanted it to be about BAC why not present your argument in the OP?

I can't work out whether you are trolling or truly believe drink driving is fine as long as you can stay in your lane. Fucked up either way.

the op specifically talks about DUI's. That means driving under the influence. How you have come to the conclusion that a thread about dui's is a completely different subject matter then a thread about blood alcohol levels and their influence on driving is beyond me. Surely you are just trolling.

 

[BareKnucklez**]

not sure what you mean? By come off it, are you just saying "im wrong"? the fact you said "mate" makes me think you are from a different country and maybe i just dont get your lingo. What do i need to come off of?

Translation from English to American:
Mate = Dude

 

[OldGoat]

I have more issue with police using drug dogs at DUI checkpoints than I do the checkpoints themselves.

So potentially unconstitutional, potentially justified, but routinely misused.

Hey! An issue in which we agree.

The drug dogs probably arent objective and once the man starts rifling through your junk they can find and seize anything. It's perfect for corruption.

 

[llperez22]

Translation from English to American:
Mate = Dude

i understand that. I just equated the use of "mate" as someone who is not from america thus maybe the rest of the sentence might be over my head when he says come off it mate. Is he saying im wrong? That i need to shut up? That my opinoin has no basis? Not exactly sure because come off it is quite vague and maybe there is something im missing.

 

[Snackbar]

ive never harmed a soul nor will i ever. If you are unable to drive due to drinking, then dont drive, period. The argument here is that drinking=/= unable to drive. If that were the case, then you could go to any of the countless bars in america and witness first hand people driving recklessly left and right. It would be everywhere. The fact you dont shows that there are different levels of driving impairment and not all should be treated equally.

Why take the chance after a few drinks? Why take the chance of answering that text quick and taking your eyes off the road? There are literally no pros to either choice, and a life altering shitstorm of cons.

I'm sure you can handle your automobile fine after some beers, but that is of little importance in the off chance you find yourself watching a child seat launch out the back window of the SUV you pile into.

Check stops for drunk drivers is a good idea and one of the few police programs I agree with these days. They should be extended to catch text drivers and over houred/ tired drivers as well somehow.

 

[BareKnucklez**]

i understand that. I just equated the use of "mate" as someone who is not from america thus maybe the rest of the sentence might be over my head when he says come off it mate. Is he saying im wrong? That i need to shut up? That my opinoin has no basis? Not exactly sure because come off it is quite vague and maybe there is something im missing.

Ya he's basically saying you're an asshole

 

[Falsedawn]

Hey! An issue in which we agree.

The drug dogs probably arent objective and once the man starts rifling through your junk they can find and seize anything. It's perfect for corruption.

Yep. Humans can affect the hits of drug dogs simply by virtue of wanting to get a drug hit.

http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/welcome/features/2010-2011/02/20110223_drug_dogs.html

They get you, they search your car, and everything inside is forfeit...like money which they don't have to return.

http://jalopnik.com/5913416/cops-can-confiscate-money-and-property-from-law-abiding-citizens

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...s-return-stripper-1-million-article-1.1407412

http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20090322/LOCAL/303229940/-1/LOCAL11

Seriously fucked.

 

[llperez22]

those in favor of checkpoints, how would you feel about random pat downs when you are walking the streets to check for drugs or weapons? Whats the difference from a checkpoint? Drugs and weapons are illegal and lead to criminal activity even though most are no harm to society, why not stop people randomly and check them to make sure?

 

[jlazer]

DUIs should be a $1,000 fine for the first one and that's it. The penalties for DUIs are way too harsh

 

[jlazer]

Why take the chance after a few drinks? Why take the chance of answering that text quick and taking your eyes off the road? There are literally no pros to either choice, and a life altering shitstorm of cons.

I'm sure you can handle your automobile fine after some beers, but that is of little importance in the off chance you find yourself watching a child seat launch out the back window of the SUV you pile into.

Check stops for drunk drivers is a good idea and one of the few police programs I agree with these days. They should be extended to catch text drivers and over houred/ tired drivers as well somehow.

Sometimes you just need to get home! That's the pro of driving drunk

 

[Snackbar]

Driving is not a right, it is a privilege for responsible adults, that is why you have to be a certain age and pass a course. You are then responsible for a large fast piece of machinery that can direct impact others.

Walking down the street is a right, everyone of every age has the right to walk down the street.

Stopping everyone at a check stop is not discriminatory and does not infringe on your rights unless your vehicles searched.

Physically touching a pedestrian infringes on their rights and therefore is wrong.

I suspect you got nailed at a check stop last night and blew over the limit. Since your employer requires safe driving from you,I imagine you are in for a fun Monday morning at work, and are trying to validate your shitty decision this weekend.

 

[llperez22]

DUIs should be a $1,000 fine for the first one and that's it. The penalties for DUIs are way too harsh

i think it depends on what you got the dui for. Like were you hammered and a legit threat on the road? Sure, swing the hammer. Were you driving fine and had some drinks but got pulled over for random shit? The penalties are huge. The penalty should be based on the crime, not some arbitrary BAC level with nothing else taken into consideration.

 

[RTR ATL]

Lots of degenerate drunk driving nuthuggers in this thread.

 

[llperez22]

Driving is not a right, it is a privilege for responsible adults, that is why you have to be a certain age and pass a course. You are then responsible for a large fast piece of machinery that can direct impact others.

Walking down the street is a right, everyone of every age has the right to walk down the street.

Stopping everyone at a check stop is not discriminatory and does not infringe on your rights unless your vehicles searched.

Physically touching a pedestrian infringes on their rights and therefore is wrong.

I suspect you got nailed at a check stop last night and blew over the limit. Since your employer requires safe driving from you,I imagine you are in for a fun Monday morning at work, and are trying to validate your shitty decision this weekend.

nope. I did get a dui in 2005 because the cop said i changed lanes at the last second to get into the left turn lane even though there was no one else on the street. Whatever, i aint mad about that, it was 9 years ago. Paid approximately 5 thousand dollars in fines and fees on top of a car insurance hike and losing my license for a month and having to attend alcohol awareness classes for 9 months. But im good. Just change lanes slower these days i guess.If i were to ever get another dui, i would never drink and drive again. Wouldnt be able to risk it. But i know ive never driven where im a danger to those around me. I would never ever do that.