Your thoughts on Cung Le vs Frank Shamrock

[HHJ]

 

[loisestrad]

Poll is rigged.

 

[don't ask]

I'm a fan of both these fighters, but I didn't enjoy this fight. It's rare that I enjoy pure kickboxing fights in MMA.

 

[sjon22]

If I remember correctly the plan was rematch for Frank if he lost. First fight no wrestling, if he lost he would in the 2nd.

 

[kingmob6]

Cung could wrestle though.

 

[HHJ]

Poll is rigged.

No it is not.

Its an awesome fight. But the fact that frank didnt go for the take down shouldnt be ignored either. Esp considering the time period.

Still, its a classic all time fight IMO

 

[Egészségére!]

#5. Awesome fight, even more awesome fkn crowd

 

[Lee Danger]

att i saw it as an easy defence with a big name involved, EliteXC worked that way; Frank was ancient and i genuinely thought that he had came back from retirement for this fight.

Frank letting Le breaking his arm with kicks standing in front of him was painful to watch.

 

[kingmob6]

att i saw it as an easy defence with a big name involved, EliteXC worked that way; Frank was ancient and i genuinely thought that he had came back from retirement for this fight.

Frank letting Le breaking his arm with kicks standing in front of him was painful to watch.

not the best matchup for Frank even if he was younger.

 

[NoSmilez]

Frank was old by then. His knees were really bad and he had periods of inactivity. Don't get me wrong. Le was an older guy too but he didn't have the mileage that Frank had. Le had a kickboxing career but it's kickboxing under this ruleset that favored him. He was the sanda/sanshou champion but he never formally trained in it until way later. That sport was very niche. He was a TKD guy with jr college wrestling experience beating up other fighters who didn't quite understand that ruleset. I kind of felt that the promoters just got random kickboxers to show up so they can have the Cung Le show where he defends the "world" title.

 

[Sonny Qc]

Truly Wished Cung had more MMA fights tbh.
Between his Hollywood career and UFC lawsuit
We lost so many fun fight tbh.

 

[kingmob6]

Frank was old by then. His knees were really bad and he had periods of inactivity. Don't get me wrong. Le was an older guy too but he didn't have the mileage that Frank had. Le had a kickboxing career but it's kickboxing under this ruleset that favored him. He was the sanda/sanshou champion but he never formally trained in it until way later. That sport was very niche. He was a TKD guy with jr college wrestling experience beating up other fighters who didn't quite understand that ruleset. I kind of felt that the promoters just got random kickboxers to show up so they can have the Cung Le show where he defends the "world" title.

he was also undersized for 185, but in a standup affair even a younger more athletic Frank would have lost.

 

[Thesnake101]

It's always good to see Frank get beat up.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

I don't think Frank could have took him down even if he tried. I can't recall Shamrock going for takedowns during that time period, he was very broken down.

Cung Le isn't just some random guy from K1 either who will go down just by tapping his ankles, he can definitely stop a slow takedown attempt. He was a good wrestler and obviously fighting in Sanda helps too.

 

[Thesnake101]

Truly Wished Cung had more MMA fights tbh.
Between his Hollywood career and UFC lawsuit
We lost so many fun fight tbh.

UFC lawsuit didn't do anything to his career though. He was already 42 when Bisping mauled him and then he had that positive test that he disputed, forget what the end result of it was but best case scenario he would've been like 44 if he fought again.

 

[don't ask]

If I remember correctly the plan was rematch for Frank if he lost. First fight no wrestling, if he lost he would in the 2nd.

Is this true? I didn't know this.

 

[RockyLockridge]

fuck good fights

 

[wrestlefan]

Frank was on his way to KOing Le until the arm break.

 

[Mike]

Reminds me of Cungs fight with Wand. I really enjoyed that one.

 

[HHJ]

Reminds me of Cungs fight with Wand. I really enjoyed that one.

Both great fights indeed.

Joe Rogan tried to ruin the end of it saying it was a early stoppage, but Cung's nose was bolivianed.