Wrestling body types - Jon Jones

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I'm no expert on freestyle/MMA wrestling. The stereo typical body type is thick and stocky...

Jon Jones is the first lanky, skinny assed mofo , DOMINANT wrestler Ive seen... He defies muscle size, Cormier... Etc.

How is this possible? How can a beanpole dominate long range, plus wrestling like no other in history?

I don't get it.. tell me wrestling fanboys...
 
He's not a historically great pure wrestler, not even close. He's an accomplished collegiate champion but there's a world of difference between that and world champions and olympians. Jon is however arguably the best MMA wrestler ever because of his overall fight/grappling IQ from years of training at Jackson/Wink combined with his ridiculous length and leverage over basically all of his opponents. He's dominant with an atypical frame for wrestling in MMA specifically because he relies less on explosion and brute strength (not that he isn't strong and capable of slamming guys smaller than him) and more on good timing and setups using his striking. Especially the thai clinch, his leverage, height, and long arms make him almost impossible to outmaneuver in the clinch, and a lot of his grappling and takedowns are set up from there.
 
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Jon Jones is a big guy. What are you talking about OP? A skinny guy would be like Cory Hill.
 
Same reason why the atypical sprinter Usain Bolt has become the best sprinter in history. Using his size and natural physical gifts to the maximum.
 
He's a great MMA grappler because of his great control of range. It's not uncommon for lanky guys to be good in the clinch. He uses his control of distance to make defending shots easier.
 
Inertia Creeps said:
He's not a historically great pure wrestler, not even close. He's an accomplished collegiate champion but there's a world of difference between that and world champions and olympians. Jon is however arguably the best MMA wrestler ever because of his overall fight/grappling IQ from years of training at Jackson/Wink combined with his ridiculous length and leverage over basically all of his opponents. He's dominant with an atypical frame for wrestling in MMA specifically because he relies less on explosion and brute strength (not that he isn't strong and capable of slamming guys smaller than him) and more on good timing and setups using his striking. Especially the thai clinch, his leverage, height, and long arms make him almost impossible to outmaneuver in the clinch, and a lot of his grappling and takedowns are set up from there.
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I wouldn't agree on him being the best MMA wrestler ever(he is close) but with other whats written,no arguing.
 
His uses wrestling VERY good in a fist-fight, which some great wrestlers could never do.
 
Inertia Creeps said:
He's not a historically great pure wrestler, not even close. He's an accomplished collegiate champion but there's a world of difference between that and world champions and olympians. Jon is however arguably the best MMA wrestler ever because of his overall fight/grappling IQ from years of training at Jackson/Wink combined with his ridiculous length and leverage over basically all of his opponents. He's dominant with an atypical frame for wrestling in MMA specifically because he relies less on explosion and brute strength (not that he isn't strong and capable of slamming guys smaller than him) and more on good timing and setups using his striking. Especially the thai clinch, his leverage, height, and long arms make him almost impossible to outmaneuver in the clinch, and a lot of his grappling and takedowns are set up from there.
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Inertia Creeps said:
He's not a historically great pure wrestler, not even close. He's an accomplished collegiate champion but there's a world of difference between that and world champions and olympians. Jon is however arguably the best MMA wrestler ever because of his overall fight/grappling IQ from years of training at Jackson/Wink combined with his ridiculous length and leverage over basically all of his opponents. He's dominant with an atypical frame for wrestling in MMA specifically because he relies less on explosion and brute strength (not that he isn't strong and capable of slamming guys smaller than him) and more on good timing and setups using his striking. Especially the thai clinch, his leverage, height, and long arms make him almost impossible to outmaneuver in the clinch, and a lot of his grappling and takedowns are set up from there.
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DC said that Jones was on his radar as a wrestler and if he didn't quit he was going to the Olympics.
 
Maybe it's the opposite of normal wrestlers...against a regular wrestler most guys are scared of being taken down, guys are afraid of Jones' striking and clinch they worry about the takedown secondary. Kinda like if Anderson Silvia tried taking people down..prob be easier for him than a wrestler.
 
Also he is very unorthodox. His long arm double legs are not something ppl are used to. His use of judo is also a nice touch. He just understands the mechanics really well
 
With only high school wrestling he embarrassed Daniel Cormier, who came 4th in the Olympics. Imagine if Jon had similar experience/age as Daniel?

He may really be the most talented wrestler we have ever seen
 
Tito is the same way. His upper body is huge and his legs are skinny as fuck. THe thing about levereage is 100% accurate and of course his iq in the cage is off the charts but he has immense strength for his size as well.
 
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