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I think that what it is is that the physical response to fear is indistinguishable from the physical response to attraction. So if people feel fear in a situation where some cues suggest that attraction is appropriate, they interpret it that way, and then it kind of locks in.

I don't. You ever see a cute puppy and have the hair on the back of your neck stand up. Or hear something go bump in the night and get a boner?

There being responses like you described in the experiments doesn't mean that's all there is to the matter. I'd say there's an ocean of shit we don't understand about attraction. Fear though seems more straightforward.


oh if sensitive people like me don't populate the internet who are the trolls gonna get a rise out of?

They'll just have to step up their game. Humans are emotional creatures. We all get worked up from time to time.
 
I watched that with my dad. He always tried to get me into boxing when I was young with Jack Johnson, Joe Walcott, and Rocky tapes but I could never get into it then he said fuck it and we watched Gatti/Ward 1 together and I got hooked.

We watched that documentary as a family. My mom:
"I don't even know who this is but his widow is a cunt"

100 percent

also seemed that Ward and his wife were very close with Gatti as well.
 
Why hasn’t this been made into a movie? I’d watch that.
It has and it's on YouTube:


Marky Mark said that if they do a second movie about Micky Ward it'd be all about the Ward/Gatti trilogy. HBO did a documentary about Ward/Gatti 1 specifically and I remember the ref for the fight being asked why he didn't stop it in the 9th round or if he thought about stopping it:
"Every 8 seconds I thought I had to stop it but knew if I did I could never forgive myself for stopping it"

100 percent

also seemed that Ward and his wife were very close with Gatti as well.
That 48 Hours special. They were. Ward trained with Gatti for a time after the 3rd fight and they were, it sounds like, closer personal friends.
 
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It just pisses me off so goddamn much.

There's a boxing highlight that I saw that showed him and Ward in the ring together then his daughter looking at his HoF plaque and it brings me to tears every goddamn time I see it.



Around the 1 minute mark.

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Wrong vid, it's this one, 50 seconds in:


That's tough to watch
 
I don't. You ever see a cute puppy and have the hair on the back of your neck stand up. Or hear something go bump in the night and get a boner?

So I'm saying that there's two factors involved in this, and you're pointing out that one factor isn't enough to explain things. OK. That's why I'm saying there are two. 2/=1.

There being responses like you described in the experiments doesn't mean that's all there is to the matter. I'd say there's an ocean of shit we don't understand about attraction. Fear though seems more straightforward.

Fear is also not so straightforward. Basic point is that emotion involves a physical response (for example, quickening of the pulse, shortening of breath, etc.) and an interpretation of that response (for example, "scary stuff is happening so I'm afraid").
 
Well, there's no such thing as "fake" attraction, right? But what experiments suggest is that if people are afraid when they meet someone, they're more likely to be attracted to that person, in part because they're interpreting the physical response that they'd normally interpret as fear as attraction. One example (among many possible) is where an attractive female assistant approaches people after they cross a rickety, scary bridge to ask them some questions for an experiment and then gives them her number to call if they have any questions. Then they try it with the same girl and a non-scary bridge. The ones crossing the scary bridge are more likely to call. Then another one is where they give volunteers a questionnaire that includes a question about the attractiveness of the female administering the test. One group is told before it starts, "we will begin the painful shock experiment momentarily." The group told that rates her more highly. I think that stuff is behind a lot of the dates on the Bachelor, too.
Back in middle school I went on a school trip to a theme park. One of the girls who was in my group ended up having a crush on me, maybe its because she was sitting next to me on some of those rides.

I paid little attention to her because I had a crush on another girl in the group. Classic Stacy/Becky scenario.
 
So I'm saying that there's two factors involved in this, and you're pointing out that one factor isn't enough to explain things. OK. That's why I'm saying there are two. 2/=1.

Fear is also not so straightforward. Basic point is that emotion involves a physical response (for example, quickening of the pulse, shortening of breath, etc.) and an interpretation of that response (for example, "scary stuff is happening so I'm afraid").

@Khabib Khanate, you used to be a psych major, right? I'm kind of drawing on Lisa Feldman-Barrett and Nick Chater here, though I understand it can sort of be traced back to Schachter and Singer. William James and Carl Lange (or John Dewey) and Cannon-Bard have different ideas that seem less compelling to me. What do you think of those three perspectives (Two-Factor vs. James-Lange vs. Cannon-Bard)? Are there other ones that should be taken seriously?
 


Back in middle school I went on a school trip to a theme park. One of the girls who was in my group ended up having a crush on me, maybe its because she was sitting next to me on some of those rides.

I paid little attention to her because I had a crush on another girl in the group. Classic Stacy/Becky scenario.
I hate looking back at my middle school and high school days for all the signals I missed.
 
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