Social WR Lounge v248: Being short makes my big dong look absolutely gigantic.

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I don't mind the girls (certainly a step up in posting quality from you-know-who), I just can't imagine them in the real world.

Since pandemic I've hung out regularly with one girl I'd say is a 9.5, and she has that attractiveness that's like a gravitational force, like every man at an event where she is is subconsciously aware of where she is at every moment whether they want to be or not. Guys have a few drinks and just don't know what to do, and inappropriate comments have to be intentionally misinterpreted for decades-long friendships to be preserved. It's a phenomenon.

She has maybe 1 or 2 of the attractive qualities of these Instagram girls and has that much of an impact on reality. Those girls either can't possibly look that good IRL, or time-space must warp behind them when they walk before collapsing into a sexual infinite.

There's a bit from the Pale King that's similar to this:

Suffice it that Meredith Rand makes the [...] males self-conscious. They thus tend to become either nervous and uncomfortably quiet, as though they were involved in a game whose stakes have suddenly become terribly high, or else they become more voluble and conversationally dominant and begin to tell a great many jokes, and in general appear deliberately unself-conscious, whereas before Meredith Rand had arrived and pulled up a chair and joined the group there was no real sense of deliberateness or even self-consciousness among them. Female examiners, in turn, react to these changes in a variety of ways, some receding and becoming visually smaller (like Enid Welch and Rachel Robbie Towne), others regarding Meredith Rand's effect on men with a sort of dark amusement, still others becoming narrow-eyed and prone to hostile sighs or even pointed departures. [...] Some of the male examiners are, by the second round of pitchers, performing for Meredith Rand, even if the performance's core consists of making a complex show of the fact that they are not performing for Meredith Rand or even especially aware that she's at the table. Bob McKenzie, in particular, becomes almost manic, addressing nearly every comment or quip to the person on either the right or left side of Meredith Rand.
 
I think he's brilliant. I haven't always agreed with him, but he always makes good points. I haven't read his books so I'm basing that on his Atlantic pieces, mostly.

I strongly disagree.

I essentially call Coates the "Malcom X for dummies."

he essentially rehashes many of his points and repackages it for his own.

his "critically acclaimed" book, "Between teh world and me" was garbage as well.

he fully embraces victim ideology, which is the most malignant tumor in any POC community.

find me a article that he has written. I"ll take a look.
 
I strongly disagree.

I essentially call Coates the "Malcom X for dummies."

he essentially rehashes many of his points and repackages it for his own.

his "critically acclaimed" book, "Between teh world and me" was garbage as well.

he fully embraces victim ideology, which is the most malignant tumor in any POC community.

find me a article that he has written. I"ll take a look.

@essie mentioned this one:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazin...irst-white-president-ta-nehisi-coates/537909/

I read an excerpt from the book you're talking about, and I thought it was very good, but not the kind of thing that I'm really interested in so I didn't read the rest, but it looks good.

I don't think that "victim ideology" is a good lens from which to view things. The way these things normally go is that one person accuses someone else of that, and then the other person points out that the other side does the same (note how the MSM kept insisting that we should understand and sympathize with the pain of Trump supporters), and basically everyone's right to some extent because a lot of what politics is is identifying problems and trying to fix them. If one is determined to see their opponents as "embracing victim ideology," there will be no shortage of justifications. I don't see Coates as being unusual in that regard, and I think the key is just whether people are correct or incorrect about the claims they make and whether they can be reasonable about them (this is a consistent theme in my thinking here, you may have noticed).
 
I strongly disagree.

I essentially call Coates the "Malcom X for dummies."

he essentially rehashes many of his points and repackages it for his own.

his "critically acclaimed" book, "Between teh world and me" was garbage as well.

he fully embraces victim ideology, which is the most malignant tumor in any POC community.

find me a article that he has written. I"ll take a look.
his best and most precise:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazin...irst-white-president-ta-nehisi-coates/537909/

but I don’t think I have the emotional energy to see your horrified and simple reaction to it. :/
 
his best and most precise:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazin...irst-white-president-ta-nehisi-coates/537909/

but I don’t think I have the emotional energy to see your horrified and simple reaction to it. :/

I do, but the point is also just that it's a good demonstration of his thinking and writing skills. Even if someone disagrees with the points, if they make an honest effort to engage them, they'll see that it's a serious piece.

BTW (@Social Distance Warrior), in that piece, Coates quotes Murray:

“We so obviously despise them, we so obviously condescend to them,” the conservative social scientist Charles Murray, who co-wrote The Bell Curve, recently told The New Yorker, speaking of the white working class. “The only slur you can use at a dinner party and get away with is to call somebody a redneck—that won’t give you any problems in Manhattan.”

Is that "victim ideology"? I'd say yes, but again, I think rather than try to inaugurate a pissing contest, we should just examine the claims on their merits (and Coates does take a look at the facts there).
 
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