Social WR Lounge v232: But I did ask for Uranus

[HOLA]

I don’t even know what 12 monkeys is about and don’t want to assume it’s actually about monkeys

It's a great movie. Time travel, pandemics, the apocalypse and a very mentally ill Brad Pitt.

 

[lsa]

So I watched it from your timestamp, gonna watch it from the beginning but before that I'll share some thoughts.

For one, the thing with Mehdi Hassan is that he seems to pride himself on being a tough interviewer which leads to this kind of annoying approach of his where he tries to catch his interviewee with gotcha questions. Its not all bad but here I think he could've pulled back a bit and let Chomsky articulate his thoughts more, like for real man respect your elders.

Anyway Chomsky is not wrong on Erdogan by that point. Up until the Arab Spring Erdogan actually had a great track record. He reformed the economy away from the top down statist regime that the Kemalist military establishment set up and that led to a lot of growth in Turkey. But he also made overtures to the Kurds who became a reliable voting bloc for his party(e.g. allowed the teaching of Kurdish in public schools). So on both human rights and the economy he was pretty good.

But then regional and domestic politcal events changed thing. On the domestic side him and his party had made an alliance with a shadowy movement under the leadership of Fethullah Gulen. These Gulenists had overtime infiltrated key public institutions(public schools, police, judiciary) which made them a key ally in Erdogan's fight to push out the Kemalist old guard from their position fo power. But by 2013 Erdogan and his party had a falling out with the Gulenists and they then became a reliable boogeyman for Erdogan to justify repression of the opposition and dissent. Erdogan's heavy handed approach to the Gezi Park Protests was also a sign of things to come. Most importantly was the 2016 coup which shook the country almost like how 9/11 did here. It gave Erdogan a strong pretense to crush internal dissent. It's very likely it was carried out by desperate Gulenists but its almost certainly the case that many, if not most, of those accused of being coup plotters in the aftermath were not complicit.

Regionally the Arab Spring changed the game. At first Erdogan tried to play the Islamic solidarity card since it initially looked like Islamist movements like the various Brotherhood branches might come to power. But that didn't work out as the revolution in Syria stalled and Morsi got deposed in Egypt. Additionally, the instability in Iraq and Syria meant a rise in Kurdish militancy which is a serious security concern for Turkey. When the secular Kemalists were in power it was convenient for Erdogan to make an alliance with the Kurds in Turkey to help oust them. But with the Kemalists gone and the Syrian and Iraqi Kurds emboldened the situation changed and Erdogan reverted to old school Turkish chauvinism in an effort to deal with rising Kurdish militancy. I'm sure Erdogan would've preferred to keep the old status quo of Islamic solidarity with the Kurds but the success of the Kurdish militants in Iraq and Syria meant that was no longer politically sustainable.

tl;dr Erdogan lived long enough to see himself become the villain.

"tl;dr Erdogan lived long enough to see himself become the villain."

You should just have said that... Would have saved a lot of time.

 

[Andy Capp]

That’s probably the only decent X-Men movie.

I also forgot about 12 Monkeys isn’t that time travel? I only saw it once a long time ago but something about seeing Bruce Willis mentioned made me think of it

Shit you just reminded me of what movie I have been trying to recall, Planet of the Apes.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

Chomsky is great.

Truly the greatest.

I'm rather drunk at this moment, a rich Ancap who bought all my drinks and shared his expensive drugs to flex his wealth literally came with a notepad full or topics he brought considering how I win this debate every time.

I'm in an IWW shirt tonight too so color me red, black, and feisty.

Hearing an Objectivist who has never read Ayn Rand try to lecture me on Libertarianism is adorable though.

On the issue of defining imperialism in relation to Crimea/Syria, Hasan is clearly being purposefully daft.

I generally enjoy Al Jazeera but that interview Was disgustingly bad.

What I see is disgusting, YPJ fighters having their pants ripped off while German guns are in their fucking mouths because Trump and his supporters adore ethnic cleansing.

I've seen a comrade try to escape, but our tax dollars kept her in there, I saw her throat cut open with a knife my taxes probably paid for.

This is like when Reagan paid people to smash children's skulls open in Guatamala.

A mother screamed into the sky in the sky in a trailer park in Texas as her son shivered to death because the cogs of capitalism are lubricated from the blood of the poor.

A woman is getting brutally raped right now in Kurdistan and we're paying for each scream, hell every single American probably chipped in a penny for the knife they slit her throat with.

It's filthy. Every time we buy a can of soda, the taxes go to rape and murder.

The exchange rate of the US dollar is measured in the screams of the children we gleefully kill.

 

[JDragon]

The answer is the new avengers movie. Avengers: Endgame. I went to see that with my daughter and we were amazed!!!! Great film.

I have to say I am done with superhero movies. I still like to read some ancient Superman comic book every now and then, but those movies just bore the hell out of me. That might make me miss out on one or two pearls.

 

[tonni]

I have to say I am done with superhero movies. I still like to read some ancient Superman comic book every now and then, but those movies just bore the hell out of me. That might make me miss out on one or two pearls.

I want a superhero movie where the superpower is random and not OP. Like he can tie people's shoelaces with his mind or she can make anyone shit himself also with her telepathic powers.

A superhero that can make wildlife sexually attracted to him.

 

[tonni]

A man so normal nobody calls him weird and he knows what to say in every social setting

 

[AgonyandIrony]

Y'all really okay with how you're helping murder children and arming rapists.

Call your fucking representatives. Every poster on this forum is fine with rape, murder, and torture and do NOTHING to stop it.


It's not hard to do the very least. Y'all talked about how you don't want me to die when I go to Rojava next year, you ain't talking me out of shit, but you can call your fucking legislators and tell them that the ethnic cleansing happening needs to stop.

Call, write, or if you're interested in taping up essays of mine DM me. I can't sleep at night knowing that Turkish Bomb AS I write this are shaking the houses of Kurdish civilians. Bombs we gave them.

Stand up for Rojava.

 

[JDragon]

A superhero that can make wildlife sexually attracted to him.

*others

 

[AgonyandIrony]

@Trotsky you're a lawyer. It I handcuffed myself to a bench at the state capital until I get a meeting with the governor would I face felony charges for trespassing?

 

[Sketch]

I want a superhero movie where the superpower is random and not OP. Like he can tie people's shoelaces with his mind or she can make anyone shit himself also with her telepathic powers.

A superhero that can make wildlife sexually attracted to him.

Imagine a super hero movie about me, on this forum

 

[Sketch]

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[tonni]

Imagine a super hero movie about me, on this forum

His kryptonite is other people's wives.

 

[Deleted member 539235]

Imagine a super hero movie about me, on this forum

 

[Sketch]

@tonni Hey tonni you're a bitch

 

[Sketch]

AAY lmao scared kidseven that tonni kid. He's terrified of me

 

[tonni]

AAY lmao scared kidseven that tonni kid. He's terrified of me

I'll lick the back of your neck

 

[tonni]

@tonni Hey tonni you're a bitch

Hey HEY

 

[Sketch]

Hey HEY

Tonni sometimes I think about putting my fist through a wall

 

[Deleted member 539235]

Tonni sometimes I think about putting my fist through a wall