Social WR Lounge v222 Guys I can’t do everything for you

[Deorum]

The era of the stache and mullet was anything but SOFT

He was the most skilled basketball player in history...



LAUGH OUT FUCKING LOUD LEVEL SKILLED.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

The era of the stache and mullet was anything but SOFT

 

[The Diplomat]

He was the most skilled basketball player in history...



LAUGH OUT FUCKING LOUD LEVEL SKILLED.

When he was past his prime, it took a young MJ to keep him from another title. But in the 80's, only Magic was his equal.

 

[LazaRRus]

 

[Limbo Pete]

Hey, loopholes are there for a reason.

Our elections never have anything remotely resembling a serious issue. Like, ever. I get my ballot in the mail, I put my ballot back in the mail. If I forget. I can drive it to a drop box. That's it.

 

[The Diplomat]

Our elections never have anything remotely resembling a serious issue. Like, ever. I get my ballot in the mail, I put my ballot back in the mail. If I forget. I can drive it to a drop box. That's it.

So voting is irrelevant?

 

[Limbo Pete]

So voting is irrelevant?

???

 

[LazaRRus]

Was at this fight. Have the signed program

 

[The Diplomat]

So voting is irrelevant?

You said elections never have anything serious involved. You're arguing against voter IDs. I don't have a problem with mail in votes, when they can be verified. I'm just curious about what your point is

 

[Higus]

Wow. Looking back it seems pretty obvious.

Yeah, shocked me at first, but then I realized that there might have been signs of I was looking for them. It will be interesting to look back at some of their older videos.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

I love the videos of NBA stars worshipping Bird.

 

[sickc0d3r]

I think people confuse raw power with governance. Fighting itself is at best a means to an end; it isn't how we craft law or agree to systems of governance. Political power and representation itself doesn't really come from gun barrels. A system entirely dictated by force isn't what I would consider an actual government, not in the sense that we have one.

I think it’s fair to point out that force is required, and discuss the ramifications of that, but it’s wrong to think force that backs up the will of the people is equivalent to force that suppresses it.

 

[Andy Capp]

No voter fraud? No. That voter fraud is negligible and insignificant? Sure, its been studied extensively. You'll have to do your own research on the types of analyses done to see if it meets your standards, but here is a good list of the studies that have been done: https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/resources-voter-fraud-claims

 

[Limbo Pete]

You said elections never have anything serious involved. You're arguing against voter IDs. I don't have a problem with mail in votes, when they can be verified. I'm just curious about what your point is

I meant that our elections are run smoothly lol

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

I'm pointing out Supreme Court precedent. That's how our laws work. SCOTUS being the highest court in the land, is proper to cite on issues of the Constitution.

Why are you conflating the SCOTUS rulings with logic?

Yeah, but forcing everyone to accept the will of the people as long as everyone gets a say seems like it should be the preferred use of force.

Of course.

 

[The Diplomat]

I meant that our elections are run smoothly lol

Whether elections are smooth or not is irrelevant to verification of those who vote, no? Actually it could be very relevant, depending on the perspective.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Whether elections are smooth or not is irrelevant to verification of those who vote, no?

Not long ago Pete was melting down because democracy was about to be overthrown by people who lost faith in the vote. Now he'll argue their faith is unimportant because he can cite sources saying fraud is immaterial.

 

[Limbo Pete]

I think it’s fair to point out that force is required, and discuss the ramifications of that, but it’s wrong to think force that backs up the will of the people is equivalent to force that suppresses it.

Oh for sure. Think about our own revolution; after throwing off the British, what did the Founding Fathers turn around and do? Violently suppress all the poor ass people that decided they didn't want the new government, either. My point though is that force itself isn't a system of administration, only a means to an end (at best). It's true that laws without enforcement aren't really laws, but a government without laws isn't even a government to begin with... and laws aren't determined by legislators getting out on some parliamentary floor and having a shoot out.

 

[Andy Capp]

Wait, what part was a misstatement? And what was proven?

Having trouble with reading comprehension? Got that pissbelt wrapped around your head? I told you in that post.

 

[The Diplomat]

Oh for sure. Think about our own revolution; after throwing off the British, what did hte Founding Fathers turn around and do? Violently suppress all the poor ass people that decided they didn't want the new government, either. My point though is that force itself isn't a system of administration, only a means to an end (at best). It's true that laws without enforcement aren't really laws, but a government without laws isn't even a government to begin with... and laws aren't determined by legislators getting out on some parliamentary floor and having a shoot out.

This is why it's a great thing that Jefferson was a man of the people. We needed that antagonistic view point, opposed from Adams, Hamilton and those who felt the government was God.