Social WR Lounge v 235: Arcane Rogue Trickster, but who likes Sickness?

[Cubo de Sangre]

as a kid, I thought Farenheit 451 was...unimpressive

Not everyone likes everything.

 

[CubicleGangster]

oh, like Hg Wells, and Arthur C Clark? Isaac Asimov?

Ellison, Clark, Dick, Heinlein
Later on I got really into Vonnegut

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

You're not saying it's relevant because you're consistently dumb and you have no rebuttal because you take great solace in your self indulgent ignorance.

Everything I said was a rebuttal to your stupid ass post. Also cite Orwell homie, cite it, the page, book, year written then contrast it against his socialist beliefs in a modern day setting, also be aware of Orwell and his "deplatforming" of Communist writers with the famed "Orwell's List"

The suppression of speech on social media is free market capitalism at work, not socialism. Orwell in his great capacity, censored writers he felt were sympathetic to Stalin. Conway saying "alternative facts" could relate to 1984, Biden certainly has his instances relating to 1984 already, but what suppression of free speech and please site the page of 1984 that it relates to concerning a Capitalist entity restricting speech on their platform.

Keep climbing.

no, you are a consistent hypocrite and your rebuttal is nothing but "omg, Orwell was socialist!! how dare you!!"

you don't apply his works, his teaching to the shit you applaud.

you are a hypocrite. you advocate the suppresion of ideas, when you don't agree with them.

I say, they are always wrong..regardless of who is doing it. you believe it's okay...sometimes. so take your faux outrage and fuck off.

 

[CubicleGangster]

I fought with Jersh for something like 2 straight years, and i'll be damned if I ever came anywhere close to the pure beauty of TBT's savage, rambling, completely inebriated, dirty carpeted ass whoopings lmao.

There's nothing you can really do in response to such a video

I wonder if he ever found Frenzy
"I wanna be inside you. But boo, I can't find you."
Poetry

 

[AgonyandIrony]

Gotta have flair.

I still have a chipped tooth from biting studs into a vest lol. I need a new backpatch but nobody really sells them anymore.

I don't think I cared for any of the assigned reading in high school, especially since most of it was stuff I read in middle school
I was reading a lot of sci-fi on my own back then, mainly Harlan Ellison

I did enjoy re-reading Of Mice and Men

Huge fan of Steinbeck, being an Okie, Grapes of Wrath was required reading. When I lived in SoCal nobody understood why I took offense to being called Okie there, but I'm called Okie everywhere and I've resigned myself to my fate. Did you ever read Sinclair?

 

[Limbo Pete]

There's nothing you can really do in response to such a video

I wonder if he ever found Frenzy
"I wanna be inside you. But boo, I can't find you."
Poetry

"What me eat a steak burrito, butthole."

 

[Islam Imamate]

It could get very ugly. If Lula wins a democratic election (he should be the clear favorite just in terms of votes), the chances of Bolsonaro reinstating the military dictatorship are like, what, 1 in 3?

I don't think its that high actually, I don't think the military as a whole is interested in ruling and Bolsonaro never had a high post in the military and he was even kicked out for organizing soldiers to bargain for higher pay or something like that so I don't think he has the support of the military as a whole. The Brazilian military dictatorship, from my limited understanding, was very top down in that was run by the generals and wasn't run by mid level officers like in some other third world country.

He can still do a heck of a lot of damage to Brazil's democracy by sowing mistrust in electoral institutions and I don't think its out of the realm of possibility that he tries to create an authoritarian state around himself, its just that even if he did it would look different from the previous military dictatorship.

 

[Deleted member 579584]

cancel culture
suppression of ideas, especially unpopular ideas
the redefining of once perfectly accepted terms
the reframing of certain thoughts/ideas where they become the equivalent of anathema
perpetual war
group think
Doublespeak.


you name it...it's interesting...often the people who decry, "OMG, HOW DARE YOU QUOTE ORWELL!! HE WAS A SOCIALIST FFS!!" are usually the people who never actually read his works.

Thanks for posting this. I do understand where you coming from. I feel like both the left and the right tend to do things like this. Which is very careless action's on either party. The left is doing things like trying to cancel cartoon characters and the right are doing it by finding old tweets from comedians like James Gunn. I don't like what's going on with either at the moment. I do agree to a point

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

Not everyone likes everything.

and that's cool...maybe I need to read it again.

 

[CubicleGangster]

I still have a chipped tooth from biting studs into a vest lol. I need a new backpatch but nobody really sells them anymore.


Huge fan of Steinbeck, being an Okie, Grapes of Wrath was required reading. When I lived in SoCal nobody understood why I took offense to being called Okie there, but I'm called Okie everywhere and I've resigned myself to my fate. Did you ever read Sinclair?

No, not yet. I plan on reading The Jungle at some point.

 

[CubicleGangster]

"What me eat a steak burrito, butthole."

Dude just kept churning out classics

 

[HockeyBjj]

My whole 6th grade reading list was kind of fucked, way too many advance things for 11 year-olds IMO

We hit a lot of the deep stuff freshman year and I thought that was a good age for Scarlet letter and animal farm (watched the cartoon actually), one flew over the cookus nest in which I got kicked out of class for arguing that the nurses orange nail polish didn’t actually mean anything and that it was simply the author giving a small scene setting detail, and to kill a mockingbird bird

14/15 felt pretty appropriate for those to hit deep and understand them

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

Thanks for posting this. I do understand where you coming from. I feel like both the left and the right tend to do things like this. Which is very careless action's on either party. The left is doing things like trying to cancel cartoon characters and the right are doing it by finding old tweets from comedians like James Gunn. I don't like what's going on with either at the moment. I do agree to a point

and this is why I abhor hyporite leftist, Che Guevara wanna be jerk offs who say, "how dare you quote Orwell""

these clowns don't realize that Orwell actually was opposed to the practices some of them are endorsing.

and LOL @ "appropriating Orwell." GTFO

 

[Deleted member 579584]

I'm leaving this thread, might get yelled at soon.

 

[Trotsky]

Ha! I took em off for other jackets, or for my Greek fishermans cap I usually wear. I usually wear a slim black jacket that buttons at the throat, left a bit open for a tie underneath a slim button up with jeans tucked into my oxblood docs. Recently trimmed the mohawk into a mullet because it's starting to get humid again.

Being fashionable in New Orleans is hard, because from Spring to mid autumn you're stuffing paper towels down your pants to prevent that gunslinger chafe walk ya hard me?


My friend, you know how I feel about Hemingway, Steinbeck, and Fitzgerald. I wouldn't say they're more basic by any measure. I'd say that Orwell and Hemingway have more in common than the others concerning prose. On the subject of writing both Hemingway and Orwell believed in minimalism, Fitzgerald and Steinbeck liked to play more with their words.



Nope. You clearly fucking don't and I doubt you've ever read Homage to Catalonia or any actual written studies on Orwell, I realize this might be out of your depth but I clearly mentioned State Socialism and Stalinism vs Libertarian Socialism/ Democratic Socialism. At no point did I ever say socialism was infallible, in fact State Socialism is the antithesis of what Orwell preached and what Libertarian Socialists like myself belief. Kropotkin/Bukanin vs Lenin as it were.

Do you even fucking know what Democratic Socialism or LibSoc is? because you clearly don't. Did I defend State Socialism? Nah. Did I defend Stalinism? Never. Do I defend Orwell as a Democratic Socialist who fought in a Marxist militia who believed that violence against the police was okie fucking dokie and that Right wingers were incapable of intellectualism? Ya betcha.

Ya got on the first branch. Keep climbing this tree.

I'm not sure that I agree with your appraisals. But, as I may have said to you before, Faulkner is my favorite American novelist. Keeping with the Southern subgenre, I also like Flannery O'Connor. As far as American novels that I came across in school, my favorites are As I Lay Dying and the slightly lesser known The Good Earth by Pearl Buck, the latter of which is probably the very best narrative depiction of budding capitalism in the Chinese peasantry. I liked 1984 a lot as an adolescent, but when I reread it as an adult I found it to be far too on-the-nose. Same with Animal Farm, really.

I don't really care for Hemingway or Fitzgerald, although I've only read The Great Gatsby by the latter.

no, not fucking excusing you at all...I know who Orwell is and his history...
you act as if socialistic governments are somehow immune from draconian, or authoritarian practices.
so when you guys laud or applaud injustice done in the name of government simply becasue "your side" benefits, it's perfectly acceptable to quote Orwell.

the rest of what you said is irrelevant

I don't feel like getting too deeply into this, so I'll be brief.

Of course no model of government is immune to tyrannical practices. None whatsoever. However, if you appropriate "Orwellian" to describe any practice that you perceive to be oppressive and don't contour that to a critique of power, you render the term basically meaningless. Saying that evolving understandings of gender are Orwellian is stupid. Saying that organically evolving etymology is Orwellian is stupid. Most of all, saying that Orwellian thought is anti-socialist is very stupid.

I realize you are not saying any of that directly now, but those are some of the greatest hits by persons who misuse the term.

 

[irish_thug]

Well this certainly ran long.

Where's @Lead when you need him?

Oh...right. Fuck.

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