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Someone should make a movie version of DeLillo's End Zone. Reviews weren't great, but IMO, that is arguably his best work. I remember a while ago, it seemed like there was a move to make it with Josh Harnett starring.
OK, but here's the thing: Your issues with Andy are personal. It's not that he has extreme views or that he's a "WPEM" or whatever. He doesn't like you, and you don't like him, and you guys have conflicts that turn personal when you communicate with each other. Sometimes one or both of you behave shittily as part of that personal conflict, but it's not inherent to your beliefs about policy or social issues.
Someone should make a movie version of DeLillo's End Zone. Reviews weren't great, but IMO, that is arguably his best work. I remember a while ago, it seemed like there was a move to make it with Josh Harnett starring.
OK, but here's the thing: Your issues with Andy are personal. It's not that he has extreme views or that he's a "WPEM" or whatever. He doesn't like you, and you don't like him, and you guys have conflicts that turn personal when you communicate with each other. Sometimes one or both of you behave shittily as part of that personal conflict, but it's not inherent to your beliefs about policy or social issues.
try reading that thread again...
that was back when I was in my "civil" mode. take a look at the ways I was trying to ask him to explain his position....I even made an effort to "understand" his position.
take a look at his response. it is indicative of a man who is outraged and doesn't know why he's pissed.
similar to his response in the JRE thread...he was pissed, despite agreeing with JRE.
Someone should make a movie version of DeLillo's End Zone. Reviews weren't great, but IMO, that is arguably his best work. I remember a while ago, it seemed like there was a move to make it with Josh Harnett starring.
try reading that thread again...
that was back when I was in my "civil" mode. take a look at the ways I was trying to ask him to explain his position....I even made an effort to "understand" his position.
take a look at his response. it is indicative of a man who is outraged and doesn't know why he's pissed.
similar to his response in the JRE thread...he was pissed, despite agreeing with JRE.
Again, that's fine. I agreed that you were making a good-faith effort at an honest conversation in at least one of those threads, and he was being a dick in response (I think he's generally a good guy, though--but prone to overreaction and odd hostility). But I'm saying that the issues the two of you have with each other has nothing to do with political ideology.
It's interesting gay people don't get the same default dissociation from them that straight people do. Why am I somehow obligated to answer for a "gay" phile's actions any more than they are a "straight" phile's? Why should my rights be abridged or eliminated on account of their existence? How does my existence interfere or in any way whatsoever stop straight people from doing what they want to do or having the kind of "traditional family" they want to have? Wtf? DO YOU!
Equality? It's more like overt discrimination, double standards and savage stereotypes galore. That's why I usually refuse to entertain the topic, it only indirectly lends credence to and reinforces the conflation. And for what? I'm not sexually attracted to little boys, and as the biological father of one I find philia to be a serious problem that any decent concerned citizen should take serious issue with. However, it also seems that when you come across people who are particularly obsessed (along with the aforementioned equivalence), you'll often find that the "P" stands for psychological projection.
You can copy pasta or quote (preferably) that any time it comes up because aside from conversations I know for a fact are being held in good faith on this topic - (i.e. @Bald1, @salamander or even the OP of the Reddit thread IMO @Rand M Arthur) - I am absolutely done with this shit and will blatantly ignore it. I'll catch y'all later though.
Like I said before, fuck all those guys. Some people tend to think the worst of anything outside of their experience and understanding. Once it's clear they just don't, or can't, care about your perspective or experiences I tend to write them off on that particular part of life and this little bit of "refined" music comes to mind:
Just 'cause you don't understand what's going on
Don't mean it don't make no sense
And just 'cause you don't like it, don't mean it ain't no good
And let me tell you something
Before you go taking a walk in my world
You better take a look at the real world
'Cause this ain't no Mister Roger's Neighborhood
Can you say, "Feel like shit"?
Yeah, maybe sometimes I do feel like shit
I ain't happy 'bout it but I'd rather feel like shit than be full of shit
And if I offended you
Oh, I'm sorry but maybe you need to be offended
But here's my apology and one more thing, fuck you!
- Mike Muir, musician and philosopher
People are so dead set on defining others, or worse themselves, by one characteristic that it's impossible to move the discussion beyond that impression of personhood. As if race, religion, sexual preference, or creed are all there is to a person. Pfft, give me a break. Nevermind that those characteristics don't encompass, in any sort of meaningful way, other entities which by default get lumped under one umbrella due to ignorance or misunderstanding. Such is the nature of talking about more in depth topics than just dick and fart jokes or the Mayberryesque day to day.
Again, that's fine. I agreed that you were making a good-faith effort at an honest conversation in at least one of those threads, and he was being a dick in response (I think he's generally a good guy, though--but prone to overreaction and odd hostility). But I'm saying that the issues the two of you have with each other has nothing to do with political ideology.
I usually throw some music on my headphones when I do laundry or clean around the house. My selections are kinda all over the place, but I threw on the Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade soundtrack for some nostalgia and, man, John Williams is the fucking GOAT.
Seriously now, if there was a Mount Rushmore of Hollywood, he should be on it. Trying to pick 4 people who have had the biggest impact on the motion picture industry is a tough task. Whether it's a Director (Spielberg, Ford, Lean, Coppola, Hitchcock), actors (Day-Lewis, Tracey, Hanks, Bogart) actresses (Hepburn, Streep, Bergman) or anybody in the field of sound effects/editing, special effects, etc. Like George Lucas was a Director but also revolutionized the movie industry in terms of sound and special effects. Would he be on there? Some tough choices, but I think John Williams has to be a lock. 5 Academy Awards with FIFTY TWO nominations, and some of the greatest movie soundtracks of all time.
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philes Exist.
Wtf? DO YOU!
