I grew up doing kickboxing, starting at age 5. I started training with Joe Stevenson in 2010 or 2011, along with Dominick Reyes' older brother Alex. At the time, MMA wasn't paying well at all, you basically had to be an Anderson Silva caliber fighter to make a good living under it. I ended up getting out of it because of how unlikely it is for someone to not only make it to the UFC, but to be elite. However, now that I've had time to reflect, it was a good decision to get out of it not because of the money, but because I never got a rush or a high from kicking people in the head. I trained for a major portion of my life but I never enjoyed the act of hitting people, and that mentality will get you killed if you're going up against a guy who would relish smashing your skull in.