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Would UFC be better off as an "illegitimate" sport/org?

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TL:DR Will MMA grow in the mainstream through structure and refinement or by remaining controversial and subversive?


What a mess the UFC seems to be in these days. Is this just the "dark ages" of a still-growing sport? Will it only get better from here? Or, is "mainstream" MMA just doomed to be a sideshow?

At this point, most casual fans use the terms MMA and UFC synonymously. Even amongst the more dedicated fans, the most popular fights are the ones in which people beat the crap out of one another. There's no denying that it's pretty barbaric. Maybe that is the part of MMA that should be embraced if it is to continue growing. Perhaps, as has been mentioned by many people already, that professional MMA would be better off if it were more like "professional" wrestling. That stuff sells like crazy. Kind of like monster truck rallies. There are flashing lights and explosions, and that stuff seems to fill up arenas. Then again, when was the last time you saw a celebrity in the front rows of a pro wrestling event. It's definitely not the "classiest" of sporting events, but it generates a lot of money.

Now, I don't think UFC should model itself after pro wrestling. I'm just curious as to where that delicate balance might be between having a refined sport and one where viewers can still indulge in the carnage that seems to satiate them. If the PEDs situation cools off, will the sport continue to grow as it has been? I can't imagine that it's at a plateau. The guys that bought it aren't filthy rich because they are dumb. I think it's safe to say they know what they are doing.
 
Nick Diaz is not joking. Everyone's taking steroids. Well, almost everyone. If they'd really test everyone all the time, almost everyone would test positive.

And that's okay. Performance, and as such, the quality of the fights, would suffer without PEDs. PRIDE didn't seem to have any testing at all, and back in the day, their fighters were just miles better and more exciting to watch.

It's the BS politicians and regulators that are ruining everything. And I'm afraid that's impossible to avoid, unless the UFC skips the US market altogether.
 
Yes!....UFC's should be held in Parking Garages at 2AM. Just like Lionheart.
 
They need to go Bodog style where they have the fights on some island in the Carribean.
 
Should hold fights in international waters so USADA and the Athletic Commission have no jurisdiction.
 
Hell no

That would be giving into substance abuse, this needs to be stopped and we need to stay strong
 
UFC should market itself like Slamball, illegitimate basketball

 
You go sell your backstreet fight org to one of the biggest orgs in the country for billions. 4x the value of the biggest wrestling org in the country. Which has been around for half a century while wrestling has been around for a century and more.

Pride was bangs and flashing lights and guess who bought them?

This is ridiculous. You want money, you go mainstream and that means go legit and corporate and PC and pro.
 
Nick Diaz is not joking. Everyone's taking steroids. Well, almost everyone. If they'd really test everyone all the time, almost everyone would test positive.

And that's okay. Performance, and as such, the quality of the fights, would suffer without PEDs. PRIDE didn't seem to have any testing at all, and back in the day, their fighters were just miles better and more exciting to watch.

It's the BS politicians and regulators that are ruining everything. And I'm afraid that's impossible to avoid, unless the UFC skips the US market altogether.

Pride got bought by the UFC and had squash fights and shit.

You enjoy that? Well I seriously recommend watching pro wrestling(which I do) or bumfights.
 
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