Opinion Would George Floyd be alive today, if Derek Chauvin didn't pin his knee to his neck?

[I am your real dad]

Three times the amount for an opiate naive individual. Addicts develop tolerance. If that amount should have killed him he'd already have been under respiratory depression and he'd be sedated, not struggling and gasping for air at a normal rate. There are people in the clinical literature driving down the highway send catching DUIs for higher levels than that.

The autopsy shows that's what killed him.
Not some guy resting his knee on him.

Maybe if Floyd kept picking on pregnant women instead of challenging an old white cop with a heavy knee he would be alive today.

And remember kids fentanol is completely safe, you can drive down the road while on it apparently.
And beating up pregnant women will make you a hero!

 

[ineverpost]

The knee isn't the bad part, it's that he continue to knee him even after he was effectively dead. The paramedics had to request they get off of him so they could drag his body to the morgue. Otherwise they'd prob still be on him out there to this day.

 

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The autopsy shows that's what killed him.
Not some guy resting his knee on him.

Maybe if Floyd kept picking on pregnant women instead of challenging an old white cop with a heavy knee he would be alive today.

And remember kids fentanol is completely safe, you can drive down the road while on it apparently.
And beating up pregnant women will make you a hero!

No it wasn't.

And what a dumb, dumb take.

 

[I am your real dad]

No it wasn't.

And what a dumb, dumb take.

I know the knee didn't kill him. I'm glad we agree.

That last part was in jest Madame

 

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I know the knee didn't kill him. I'm glad we agree.

That last part was in jest Madame

Of course it was in jest, you are strawmanning a position no one holds and that is why your take is just so stupid.
I bolded the part of your reply I was referring to. The autopsy does not say fentanyl killed him.

You've got to ask yourself why you would make up facts to try to suit that particular narrative?

 

[I am your real dad]

Of course it was in jest, you are strawmanning a position no one holds and that is why your take is just so stupid.
I bolded the part of your reply I was referring to. The autopsy does not say fentanyl killed him.

You've got to ask yourself why you would make up facts to try to suit that particular narrative?

He had 3 times the overdose amount in his system.
Fact.

Resting knees kill people.
Fairy tail.

Wake up Alice, this isn't wonderland.

 

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He had 3 times the overdose amount in his system.
Fact.

Resting knees kill people.
Fairy tail.

So you could have just said you don't know how opiates work. Yes, someone in the world has died from having 3 ng/ml in their blood. But others have survived having 50 ng/ml.

Your 'overdose amount' is just a therapeutic level of fentanyl for someone that has developed tolerance, like a chronic pain patient.

Opiate addicts can develop tolerances 5-10x what would be be lethal for an opiate naive person.

Another sherdog expert that knows better than the expert witnesses. Top of your class at Harvard medical school I bet?

Wake up Alice, this isn't wonderland.

cringe

 

[DanSavage]

Not full stop and not fact.
Dude has probably done this before. Just no coroners to say he should have died even though he didn’t.

He didn’t die until Chauvin had his knee on his neck for over 9 minutes.

Yeah. Poor, little 6' 4", 230 lb. George Floyd died when big, bad 5' 9" 140 lb. Derek Chauvin had his knee on George's neck for 9 minutes.

That's like saying that 5' 3" 100-nothing lb. Scarlett Johansson could take out your average 6' 8" 275 lb. Sherdogger. LOL!

 

[DanSavage]

Maybe if Floyd kept picking on pregnant women instead of challenging an old white cop with a heavy knee he would be alive today.

Heavy knee. Ha! Good one.

Derek Chauvin was the largest cop on scene. All, 5' 9" 140lbs. of him. LOL!

Here on Sherdog, he'd be known as a manlet a la Joe Rogan.

 

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I'm more interested in Chauvin's hot asian wife who divorced him. Whats she up to?

Hot?
Bro where do you live... You've never seen an Asian before?

 

[Craisier]

Based on what I've watched of the court case, I'm leaning more towards him probably living. Either way, Chauvin still committed gross misconduct. Police training procedures for restraining don't involve pressing a knee into someones neck.

 

[DanSavage]

It is amazing how this forum brings together so many accomplished people.

That's because it's who we, Sherdoggers are.

The rest of the world simply doesn't measure up, so it's here where we find people with whom we can enjoy true comradery.

 

[I am your real dad]

Heavy knee. Ha! Good one.

Derek Chauvin was the largest cop on scene. All, 5' 9" 140lbs. of him. LOL!

Here on Sherdog, he'd be known as a manlet a la Joe Rogan.

I was being sarcastic.

George was too weak of a man for the knee.
That's why he prayed mostly on pregnant women.

You see it alot with these rent a thug types. That's why they have been attacking old Asian ladies lately. They pray on the weak because they are weak.
Its science.

 

[I am your real dad]

So you could have just said you don't know how opiates work. Yes, someone in the world has died from having 3 ng/ml in their blood. But others have survived having 50 ng/ml.

Your 'overdose amount' is just a therapeutic level of fentanyl for someone that has developed tolerance, like a chronic pain patient.

Opiate addicts can develop tolerances 5-10x what would be be lethal for an opiate naive person.

Another sherdog expert that knows better than the expert witnesses. Top of your class at Harvard medical school I bet?

cringe

Well, George had that amount in his system and he died. Fact


Keep crying for your boy Floyd and denying facts.
Maybe George should have built up his tolerance for knees instead of beating up pregnant women and doing drugs.
Old Chavin was just too much man for him to handle.

 

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Well, George had that amount in his system and he died. Fact

not from an overdose. Per every medical expert involved. You really are quite stupid.

"Tolerance for knees" lol way to go full bootlicker

 

[CatchnShoot]

No possible way to know.

What IS knowable is that he would have been alive 10 seconds after meeting Chauvin if Chauvin hadn't murdered him, and that really is the question.

It's not whether or not the candle is extinguished in the future, as all candles eventually consume their fuel. It's what caused the flame to go out precisely when it did.

 

[KingGuerrilla]

I'm just curious what do you guys think.

It seems to me its possible he still would have died considering he was high on drugs and had some underlying health issues or maybe the handling of the arrest of George Floyd contributed to his death.

I'm sure George Floyd was in high stress because of the cops presence and their actions and that would certainly strain his heart in some way.

All of it could have contributed to his death.

i bet if they paid his tab and gave him a 40 hed be alive today. Trouble is when you pin someone down who ate a bunch of counterfeit fentanyl they might die.

* fun fact- the "Israeli" holddown is preferred by veteran security and law enforcement Personnel because it restricts the ability of the subject to pound their face against the ground and cause a giant litigation hassle

* cuz you know dey gonna sue yo

 

[chardog]

probably, but for the next ten years..... doubtful

 

[KingGuerrilla]

Maybe. The officer still did wrong though.

Yeah you should let guy stand up the moment they stop fighting cuz that's the right thing to do (what if they are sick?)

* hope you got the cardio to take him back down if hes faking

 

[CatchnShoot]

Yeah you should let guy stand up the moment they stop fighting cuz that's the right thing to do (what if they are sick?)

* hope you got the cardio to take him back down if hes faking

So it's knee on neck murder, or complete freedom from restraint right? Interesting binary you've developed.

The sad thing is that your comment isn't the dumbest thought in this thread.