Would DC have beaten 'Ring Rust' Jones last night?

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Jone's cardio and skill last night looked good. But his performance against Ovince Saint Preux wasn't his best performance. He showed ring rust and didn't finish a gassed OSP in the 5th round when he had him on the ground and could have worked GnP. Instead he let him up and continued striking with him, not a good idea when OSP could still land a solid shot and hurt/finish Bones, although that was unlikely. Jon could have thrown some elbows and GnP from fullguard and most likely finished OSP, why he didn't, I don't know. Maybe he was testing his cardio to make sure he could go 5 rounds and prove it to himself.


So, who thinks last night's 'Ring Rust' version of Jones would have been beaten by DC last night?
 
Who knows. DC had a busted knee so I would say no.
 
I had said prior to DC pulling out of the fight, that due to Jones layoff and all the legal shit / trouble he was involved with, that this would be his best shot at beating Jones.

It appeared to be true, based on the way he looked last night.
 
Probably so. On april 23 2016 Jones would win. On april 23 2017 Jones would win.
 
DC is a bad matchup unless he grows five inches and his arms and legs get longer. It's amazing that he did as well as he did last time, but physique wise, he will always have a big disadvantage against Jones.
 
Jones looked slower than usual last night.

Still faster than DC though.
 
Can't say for certain, Jones has been training for DC for months on end it could have been weird with the change of styles, I think he was cautious because if he got caught by OSP it would have been humiliating.
 
I feel like he still has to outwrestle him to do it. So no.. And when they do fight, DC is coming off a knee injury.. He hasn't trained or done much of anything of late.. Looked really fat last night.
 
If Jon fought the same way he did then yes, but i dont think he would have. DC would have pressured him more and forced the fight but also i think Jon was coasting. He could have turned up the heat in the striking and most likely been more aggressive on the ground. I got the impression he was just practicing shit
 
Combat Wombatt said:
Jone's cardio and skill last night looked good. But his performance against Ovince Saint Preux wasn't his best performance. He showed ring rust and didn't finish a gassed OSP in the 5th round when he had him on the ground and could have worked GnP. Instead he let him up and continued striking with him, not a good idea when OSP could still land a solid shot and hurt/finish Bones, although that was unlikely. Jon could have thrown some elbows and GnP from fullguard and most likely finished OSP, why he didn't, I don't know. Maybe he was testing his cardio to make sure he could go 5 rounds and prove it to himself.


So, who thinks last night's 'Ring Rust' version of Jones would have been beaten by DC last night?
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Jones is 16-1 in UFC fights, should be 17-0. Until someone beats him, my money is on Bones, period. Ring rust Jones 50-45 OSP and broke his arm with a kick. Tell me this, if that was DC, how the fuck does DC beat Bones with a broken arm? I mean we are talking about "if DC was in the Octagon last night" so yea, DC should fee lucky as fuck that wasn't his arm.
 
Working out his ring rust with someone other than Cormier and a decent fighter in OSP does NOT fair well for Cormier. DC is going to face a monster in the cage. DC chances were best doing this fight. The guy had some real ring rust but now Bones will be taking it back up to pfp level at HW and will get DC knocked out by 2 or 3rd round. Mark this post..
 
Combat Wombatt said:
Jone's cardio and skill last night looked good. But his performance against Ovince Saint Preux wasn't his best performance. He showed ring rust and didn't finish a gassed OSP in the 5th round when he had him on the ground and could have worked GnP. Instead he let him up and continued striking with him, not a good idea when OSP could still land a solid shot and hurt/finish Bones, although that was unlikely. Jon could have thrown some elbows and GnP from fullguard and most likely finished OSP, why he didn't, I don't know. Maybe he was testing his cardio to make sure he could go 5 rounds and prove it to himself.


So, who thinks last night's 'Ring Rust' version of Jones would have been beaten by DC last night?
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Jesus man some of you sherdoggers are like the media who ask the same damn questions over and over again.
 
I think two things were going on in that fight that made Jones look very very very bad.

1. Ring rust is a very real and present handicap
2. Jones doesn't know what to do against rangier fighters like himself.

People have been saying it since before the Gus fight, that his reach was truly what enabled him to be as great as he is...and those people felt validated by the performance Gus had against him. Since then, Jones hasn't really had to deal with that problem...so it really wasn't confirmed imo. OSP confirmed it though. Jones is confused by, frustrated by, or gunshy against people of comparable reach to him.

Couple those things together and you have a performance like last night. It is hard to say which had the greater influence on the fight(imo it was the ring rust), but I felt like Gus and Rumble would've both smashed Jones last night, and strongly suspect irrespective of the reach difference DC, Rashad, and Rampage would've all had much better outings against the Jones of last night.

It won't matter though, Jones will be his usual self by the next time we see him in the cage, I think that fight woke him up.
 
her wasn't rusty.
He was securing the win, and saving himself from injury for 200.

why does nobody see this?

i guess the myth that the mma community isn't that bright might be true.
 
Doubt it but i'll play

If DC fought at his best and Jones fought the exact way he did vs Ovince?...Sure, he'd probably win but there are too many variables for why it could have been different.

Other than being tentative Jones looked the exact same, would seeing his rival DC across the cage instead of OSP light a fire under Jones to be more aggressive?

Jones was up from the start last night, If for the first round DC was at his best and Jones was the way he was last night, what reaction would there be from Jones after losing a round? You think he'd continue to be
tentative and just lose a lopsided decision?

Would DC still have thoughts of Jones already beating him lingering in the back of his mind causing him to also be tentative?

DC hasn't fought since early October (nearly 7months), how rusty would he be?
 
I think it had a whole lot more to do with Jones fighting not to lose against a short-notice opponent than with ring rust. The fight against OSP was a lose/lose, except for the looming rematch with DC at UFC 200. He fought conservatively, probably moreso than he would have liked by his own admission, but I don't think he would have had any trouble pulling the trigger against DC last night.
 
Arm Barbarian said:
I had said prior to DC pulling out of the fight, that due to Jones layoff and all the legal shit / trouble he was involved with, that this would be his best shot at beating Jones.

It appeared to be true, based on the way he looked last night.
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I'd have to agree.


Funny that DC admitted it too, that his best shot at beating Jones would be if it was a long layoff Jones with ring rust.
 
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