World's First Naval Experimental Railgun to Undergo Sea Trial

[Phr3121]

So you're telling me the USN wasted $500 mil to research an outdated technology in the past decade?

Yes. You quoted it yourself on your first post. "Officials at the Department of Defense 'don't want to fund the railgun because they're simply not buying it,' a senior legislative official with direct knowledge of the US' railgun project recently told Task & Purpose."

Still bitter that I shattered your American Exceptionalism with facts?

Bitter? Why would I be bitter? Shattered American exceptionalism with facts? What facts? You haven't shattered or proven anything. Wake up my Canadian friend. You are clearly living in denial. That hate you have of the U.S. is going to start eating you up from the inside out. You whine too much.

 

[Orgasmo]

Yes. You quoted it yourself on your first post. "Officials at the Department of Defense 'don't want to fund the railgun because they're simply not buying it,' a senior legislative official with direct knowledge of the US' railgun project recently told Task & Purpose."

So you admit you're not that smart since your country spent the past decade and hundreds of millions researching WWII tactics?

Bitter? Why would I be bitter? Shattered American exceptionalism with facts? What facts? You haven't shattered or proven anything. Wake up my Canadian friend. You are clearly living in denial. That hate you have of the U.S. is going to start eating you up from the inside out. You whine too much.

Yes the sun never sets on the British Empire too right? Roma invicta anyone? That Kool-Aid you're drinking is killing off your brain cells. You're not the first ignorant person to think their country will never go into decline. I just feel sorry for you.

 

[Phr3121]

Most Canadians tend to be innocent, harmless and polite little human beings (unless they're repulsive French motherfuckers from Quebec - j/k). That's not necessarily the same thing as 'friendly' because they often won't inquire about things some would take as intrusive. If you tell a Canadian to stop apologizing, they'll say sorry. These people are docile, meek and easily startled, especially the white ones, and there's a certain inherent level of dominance over them in sexual relations that requires no sort of conscious assertiveness. Don't be cruel to them.

So you admit you're not that smart since your country spent the past decade and hundreds of millions researching WWII tactics?

Ok, what does my IQ have to do with the U.S.? The U.S. has wasted billions in Research and Development projects over the last 62 years. Well, its not really a waste. Some projects go forward and others don't. Some experiments work and others don't. How is anything discovered or created? Trial and error.

Yes the sun never sets on the British Empire too right?

The British Empire did not fall. Where did you get that idea? The British surrendered their colonies throughout the world of their own accord. Well, the Americans beat the British, but the British could have beaten the Americans if the British Crown really wanted to keep the colonies. There was no desire by the British to do that or the send more troops to America. They were too busy fighting other wars in Europe. The United Kingdom is as strong as ever in their little island. Rome is a totally different story. Man, you need to review your history.

 

[Orgasmo]

Ok, what does my IQ have to do with the U.S.? The U.S. has wasted billions in Research and Development projects over the last 62 years. Well, its not really a waste. Some projects go forward and others don't. Some experiments work and others don't. How is anything discovered or created? Trial and error

Sure, some succeed and some fail even in the same area. Soviet Union never succeeded in landing on the moon. Today, Americans aren't successful in developing an experimental railgun they can deploy on a ship. Success is not exclusively an American trait.

The British Empire did not fall. Where did you get that idea? The British surrendered their colonies throughout the world of their own accord. Well, the Americans beat the British, but the British could have beaten the Americans if the British Crown really wanted to keep the colonies. There was no desire by the British to do that or the send more troops to America. They were too busy fighting other wars in Europe. The United Kingdom is as strong as ever in their little island. Rome is a totally different story. Man, you need to review your history.

Rome went into decline over a long period of time, eventually having its capital sacked by barbarians.

Britain is a shell of its former self. It couldn't keep the colonies not because it didn't want to, but they did not have enough troops and resources to hold on to them. Just because Britain is still here, doesn't mean their empire is alive and well. At one point, the monarch exerted direct control over its worldwide colonies and was able to appoint governor that held real power. Today, it was barely able to keep Scotland from separating. I think you're the one due for a historical lesson. Maybe review your Grade 10 history book?

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

I thought you said the Chinese were smart. A railgun? The U.S. has retired all their battleships. And the Germans have retired all their railgun cannons. Are the Chinese planning to use WWII tactics? Have they not heard of missiles? What a waste of time. Outdated technology.

LOL germany didnt have a rail gun -- they had a railway gun -- very different.

Double LOL at outdated tecnhology -- its undeveloped technology that hasnt been implemented, yet.

China as always opted to not go for larger warship guns above 135mm -- a railgun now allows them a none explosive projectile that has a range of 100 miles at 4500 mph -- far superior than any conventional gun. It also allows for increased accuracy and range control.

 

[Lord Commander Palis]

Unfortunately, it's Chinese.

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...-with-an-experimental-electromagnetic-railgun
https://www.popsci.com/china-navy-railgun-warship

Meanwhile in Murica:

http://www.businessinsider.com/china-testing-railgun-us-navy-2018-2

lol $500 million is nothing for military expenditure.

lmk when China can put a bandaid on it's wealth inequality wound that is leaking.

lmk how the solar tariff goes for China. Keep adding more Daddy MAGA

lmk when China's Navy can do better than a 50-1 K/D vs our USS Zumwalt...

P.S. It can't, our top destroyer wood bend China's pathetic Navy over like Trump did Stormy Daniels.

 

[Phr3121]

Soviet Union never succeeded in landing on the moon.

Yes they did, 4 successful ones, spacecraft and rovers.

Success is not exclusively an American trait.

Well duh, no shit Sherlock.

Even failed projects can have their technology transferred to other successful projects in the military or civilian world. Hard to say how much money is truly wasted.

Today, it was barely able to keep Scotland from separating.

Barely? The majority of the votes were against separation. I also forgot about the Falklands. The British were successful in keeping the islands from the Argentinian hands.

 

[Phr3121]

You like laughing a lot don't you.

LOL germany didnt have a rail gun -- they had a railway gun -- very different.

...and what does a railway gun run on?

Double LOL at outdated tecnhology -- its undeveloped technology that hasnt been implemented, yet.

No, it is still outdated technology. All that hard work to be taken out by a small guided missile. Yeah, really smart of the Chinese. ​

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

You like laughing a lot don't you.


...and what does a railway gun run on?

A railway -- you do know the difference between a railway gun and a rail-gun, right?

No, it is still outdated technology. All that hard work to be taken out by a small guided missile. Yeah, really smart of the Chinese.

​

Any ship can be taken out by a small guided missile

Explain how a railgun is outdated technology if the technology has never been created, and thus never been dated. Compare the merits of a rail-gun to that of a chemical propulsive gun and then speak to that.

 

[Orgasmo]

Yes they did, 4 successful ones, spacecraft and rovers.

Manned landing is a magnitude more difficult than probes. Just because Soviet Union was the first to send a satellite and man into space, they lost the space race. Just because US developed the first supercomputers, it has now been surpassed by China both in numbers and capabilities in this area. Your technological superiority is not assured.

Well duh, no shit Sherlock.

Even failed projects can have their technology transferred to other successful projects in the military or civilian world. Hard to say how much money is truly wasted.

But did you not just say it's WWII era outdated technology? Now it's not all wasted?

Actually can you show me a WWII example of a railgun? I think it will be hilarious while you're attempting to do so.

Barely? The majority of the votes were against separation. I also forgot about the Falklands. The British were successful in keeping the islands from the Argentinian hands.

Won by 55%, hardly worth bragging about. Funny you talk about Falklands, because the British navy today doesn't have the capability to mount expeditionary campaign like that again. The British in 18th century probably couldn't imagine how they could fall so far from height of power today. Romans in 1st century would laugh if they were told their capital would be sacked by barbarians and their empire disintegrate into oblivion just a few hundred years later.

It's called hubris, same thing you're displaying with your American Exceptionalism.

 

[Videer]

You like laughing a lot don't you.


...and what does a railway gun run on?

No, it is still outdated technology. All that hard work to be taken out by a small guided missile. Yeah, really smart of the Chinese. ​

lol.

 

[Orgasmo]

lol $500 million is nothing for military expenditure.

lmk when China can put a bandaid on it's wealth inequality wound that is leaking.

lmk how the solar tariff goes for China. Keep adding more Daddy MAGA

lmk when China's Navy can do better than a 50-1 K/D vs our USS Zumwalt...

P.S. It can't, our top destroyer wood bend China's pathetic Navy over like Trump did Stormy Daniels.

20 years ago, if someone told you:

- China will produce more researches than US in STEM fields.
- China will have more capable supercomputers and in greater quantity than US.
- China will have bigger purchasing power than US when measured in PPP.
- China will take the crown of having the largest industrial output from US.

You'd be laughing and thinking I was a lunatic. Those are all realities today. For all the bragging you Americans do, you dominant run is looking like it's going to be quite short lived compared to the British and Romans. It'd be even funnier to watch if the rising power wasn't China.

 

[Phr3121]

Explain how a railgun is outdated technology if the technology has never been created, and thus never been dated.

Never been created?
"The earliest electromagnetic gun developed was the coil gun. Its development reportedly started in 1845. The first patent was awarded to Prof Kristian Birkeland of the University of Kristiania (today Oslo). He accelerated a 500 g projectile to 50 m/s."

Naval Surface Warfare Center test firing a 'railgun' in January 2008:

 

[MicroBrew]

Unfortunately, it's Chinese.

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...-with-an-experimental-electromagnetic-railgun
https://www.popsci.com/china-navy-railgun-warship

Meanwhile in Murica:

http://www.businessinsider.com/china-testing-railgun-us-navy-2018-2

Since it's Chinese I am not expecting much.
China relies heavily on copying, stealing and buying Russian and Western defense technology. So when and if railguns become a practical lethal alternative to traditional munitions, I would expect the first viable prototypes to come from the West.

 

[MicroBrew]

20 years ago, if someone told you:

- China will produce more researches than US in STEM fields.
- China will have more capable supercomputers and in greater quantity than US.
- China will have bigger purchasing power than US when measured in PPP.
- China will take the crown of having the largest industrial output from US.

You'd be laughing and thinking I was a lunatic. Those are all realities today. For all the bragging you Americans do, you dominant run is looking like it's going to be quite short lived compared to the British and Romans. It'd be even funnier to watch if the rising power wasn't China.

Quality over quantity. India produces more movies than Hollywood.
Chinese supercomputers rely on Western designed chips.
US is still #1 economy. And it was Western and Japanese companies setting up shop in China that allowed them to move forward

At the end of the day, China is still way way behind America when it comes to cutting edge research and products. Only the US has a tested and fielded 5th gen fighter. China is just playing catch-up and we have no clue on just how good their 5th gen fighter is, and considering it is China I am not expecting it to come close to the F35 or the F22.

 

[HunterSdVa29]

20 years ago, if someone told you:

- China will produce more researches than US in STEM fields.
- China will have more capable supercomputers and in greater quantity than US.
- China will have bigger purchasing power than US when measured in PPP.
- China will take the crown of having the largest industrial output from US.

You'd be laughing and thinking I was a lunatic. Those are all realities today. For all the bragging you Americans do, you dominant run is looking like it's going to be quite short lived compared to the British and Romans. It'd be even funnier to watch if the rising power wasn't China.

which is cool
until your realize you can't walk outside w/ a mask on in many parts, they have Intranet, etc....

China can enforce exactly what against the US? nothing

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Never been created?
"The earliest electromagnetic gun developed was the coil gun. Its development reportedly started in 1845. The first patent was awarded to Prof Kristian Birkeland of the University of Kristiania (today Oslo). He accelerated a 500 g projectile to 50 m/s."

Naval Surface Warfare Center test firing a 'railgun' in January 2008:

If you're going to selectively cut and paste from Wikipedia -- you may want to actually spend sometime reading the whole article.

"Notwithstanding the above advantages, railguns are still very much at the research stage and it remains to be seen whether or not railguns will ever be deployed as practical military weapons. Any trade-off analysis between electromagnetic (EM) propulsion systems and chemical propellants for weapons applications must also factor in the novelty and complexity of the pulsed power supplies that are needed in electromagnetic launcher systems."

Also coilgun does not equal a railgun -- just as a bottle rocket doesnt equate to a Merlin engine -- even if both use a chemical propulsive

Seriously, just read the article you pilfered from without sourcing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun

@Orgasmo already showed that the US has been working a prototype -- the technology hasnt been created in the sense that its never been mounted on a practical delivery system -- which China appears to have done -- so, again, how is it dated technology?

 

[Phr3121]

Actually can you show me a WWII example of a railgun? I think it will be hilarious while you're attempting to do so.

"A railgun is a device that uses electromagnetic force to launch high velocity projectiles, by means of a sliding armature that is accelerated along a pair of conductive rails."

What does a WWII German railway gun run on? Again, a pair of rails.

 

[Orgasmo]

"A railgun is a device that uses electromagnetic force to launch high velocity projectiles, by means of a sliding armature that is accelerated along a pair of conductive rails."

What does a WWII German railway gun run on? Again, a pair of rails.

Not sure if serious....

 

[GhostZ06]

Unfortunately, it's Chinese.

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...-with-an-experimental-electromagnetic-railgun
https://www.popsci.com/china-navy-railgun-warship

Meanwhile in Murica:

http://www.businessinsider.com/china-testing-railgun-us-navy-2018-2

i think ours is still more advanced.


that thing is fucking unnecessarily large