Working the heavy bag everyday?

[757mma]

Is working on the heavy bag every day bad for you? Like for your hands, wrists etc. even with good hand wrapping and well padded gloves?

 

[apizur**]

Depends on how long you're working it for. Even if your technique is perfect... you couldn't pound that shit for 2 hours a day.
In my opinion, shadow boxing will do a better job of preparing you for time in the ring. Switch it up if you're feeling sore.

 

[757mma]

Depends on how long you're working it for. Even if your technique is perfect... you couldn't pound that shit for 2 hours a day.
In my opinion, shadow boxing will do a better job of preparing you for time in the ring. Switch it up if you're feeling sore.

some days I go 10 3 minute rounds working on different techniques every round like head movement, power, jab only, etc and then other days I only do 5 3 minute rounds working technique

 

[fluffball]

you couldn't pound that shit for 2 hours a day.

thatswhatshesaid.

I don't see any problem with heavy bag every day at all. Every single time I go to the gym I put in at least half an hour on the heavy bag. But everyone's bodies are different. Especially if you rely on wraps and gloves to keep you protected, I imagine it might get to you. Why not just try it and see how you feel?

 

[goldennboy]

I hit the bag every single day.

 

[apizur**]

Especially if you rely on wraps and gloves to keep you protected

.... as everyone should.

 

[fluffball]

.... as everyone should.

Meh, it's an argument the striking forum sees all the time. People that start off in boxing and MT like their wraps and have (I don't mean this as an insult) incredibly weak hands and wrists comparatively as a result. People that start their MA journey in traditional arts have way way stronger wrists due to a variety of factors.

I'm sure those goofy looking British boxers from the 1870s who bareknuckle brawled had very strong wrists!

To this day --and I will never train in a kata-using MA ever again-- I will not wear wraps because they make you weak. If someone started boxing from scratch with no experience and tried to bareknuckle a heavy bag or spar with no wraps he would have multiple broken bones. Machida I think would do just fine with no wraps or gloves.

 

[Parks2306]

Meh, it's an argument the striking forum sees all the time. People that start off in boxing and MT like their wraps and have (I don't mean this as an insult) incredibly weak hands and wrists comparatively as a result. People that start their MA journey in traditional arts have way way stronger wrists due to a variety of factors.

I'm sure those goofy looking British boxers from the 1870s who bareknuckle brawled had very strong wrists!

To this day --and I will never train in a kata-using MA ever again-- I will not wear wraps because they make you weak. If someone started boxing from scratch with no experience and tried to bareknuckle a heavy bag or spar with no wraps he would have multiple broken bones. Machida I think would do just fine with no wraps or gloves.

Everyone should wrap their hands if they want to be able to use them later in life.

 

[fluffball]

That's a valid argument. I've been striking for decades and I'm doing fine.

My opinion is that using proper technique and strengthening the muscles is a lot healthier than wrapping yourself up and relying on that to keep you safe.

Like I said it's an argument the striking forums have seen before, it's not worth rehashing.

 

[SummerStriker]

When I was in TMA I didn't wrap my hands. We did 5 rounds of pads maybe twice a week and no heavy bag. When I started working out in MMA gyms, we hit the bags every class, so I wear wraps.

If something starts to hurt you, you switch exercises. If you hit bags without gloves every day, your wrists will take damage. You can do more bag and pad work daily if you have wraps.

I think moderate bag and pad work with wraps, followed with fist and wrist conditioning without wraps at the end of training cycles or just before the weekend is idea.

 

[nomilkforsanta]

If someone started boxing from scratch with no experience and tried to bareknuckle a heavy bag or spar with no wraps he would have multiple broken bones. Machida I think would do just fine with no wraps or gloves.

It is very hard to strength the 5th metacarpal to withstand a bare-knuckled strike. I know ones does not aim with the 5th knuckle, however, fights are not predictable and errors in range occur. Boxers fractures happen with even the most "conditioned" striker.

 

[NVSemin]

Is working on the heavy bag every day bad for you? Like for your hands, wrists etc. even with good hand wrapping and well padded gloves?

I work everyday, but beside the heavybag, I do special exercises to condition knuckles, wrists, elbow joint, also work with hand weight for shoulders. I can punch heavy bag for almost an hour now, but 1) I use light bag so far - 30 kg (my weight is about 70) 2) I do not move much. The reason for that are: I use lighter bag to avoid problems you mention and develop good snap. I guess after a month or two I will switch to a heavier bag I do not move much, because I just try to develop good punching technique, so concentrate on that only now. Once it is improved, I will add movements. My principle: one thing at a time.

 

[fluffball]

It is very hard to strength the 5th metacarpal to withstand a bare-knuckled strike. I know ones does not aim with the 5th knuckle, however, fights are not predictable and errors in range occur. Boxers fractures happen with even the most "conditioned" striker.

A lot of people intentionally punch with that knuckle. Mine are pretty solid.

 

[Paradigm]

A lot of people intentionally punch with that knuckle. Mine are pretty solid.

is that the pinky?

 

[apizur**]

It is very hard to strength the 5th metacarpal to withstand a bare-knuckled strike. I know ones does not aim with the 5th knuckle, however, fights are not predictable and errors in range occur. Boxers fractures happen with even the most "conditioned" striker.

I think this pretty much wraps up (ha) the argument. There are things that can be done to strengthen the hands... and by all means, do them. But shit happens... and when shit happens, your hands go; and when your hands go, your career goes; and when your career goes, you're forced to make money with your mouth. Don't get forced to make money with your mouth, switch to DirecTV. It's a lot like seatbelts in cars, and we all "train" to drive without accidents. So why not just wrap?

is that the pinky?

Yes, the fifth carpal is.

 

[Mandingo31]

I recently use a MT heavy bag at home and if you want to use it on a daily basis you have to stretch before and after training, and you can't workout with full intensity every day, one day you can work power, other technique, etc. In my case I wanted to train so hard that my neck now suffering the consequences

 

[Harukaze]

Be smart. Stop when it hurts. Keep going if it doesn't. Duh. The end. LOL.