Without bias, did Silva lose his first fight to Chris or did Chris really win?

ThunderStruck said:
Exactly and their excuse was that Weidman wasn't enough of a big name.
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Pretty sure all this was after Weidman had a flawless victory with the highlight real finish of then ranked 3rd(real third, not this UFC ranking era 3rd which is really 4th) over Munoz which was supposed to be a number 1 contender match.
 
Even great fighters lose if they fight enough tough guys. You will be better off if you come to terms with that. And before someone tosses in Khabib, he retired early.
 
true_fan said:
As the saying goes,” It was his fight to lose”. By that it means, he just acted reckless and lost the fight and not because his opponent was better than him. So my question goes like this, is this the case of Anderson Silva vs Chris Weidman and that it was Silva’s fight to lose since he started leaving this hands down clowning around and being reckless or did Chris expose his weaknesses?
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Chris beat that ass fair and square.
 
Fucked around and paid for it. Tough match-up tho. Wasn't gonna win it or the hematch.
 
moreorless87 said:
That little backfist I think is a giveaway that was a drilled tactic he'd be working on, I don't think you'd do something like that on the fly.
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It looks so sloppy and spontaneous to me, though. If he did drill it, anticipate, and plan this, he deserves all the credit in the world. If he didn't, Silva is more to blame for his fuckery.
 
true_fan said:
As the saying goes,” It was his fight to lose”. By that it means, he just acted reckless and lost the fight and not because his opponent was better than him. So my question goes like this, is this the case of Anderson Silva vs Chris Weidman and that it was Silva’s fight to lose since he started leaving this hands down clowning around and being reckless or did Chris expose his weaknesses?
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Silva lost every minute of every round before he got finished. He was acting stupid because he was frustrated and thought he could goad Weidman into a slugfest and pick him off with a counter shot.

He had nothing for Chris, and assuming he didn’t get himself finished, the fight would’ve played out like Sonnen-Silva I, with Chris dominating every second of the way. Except Weidman would’ve never gotten caught in a triangle at the end.

Chris Weidman’s prime was short, and he may have dove off a cliff when his time was over, but Weidman at his peak was a great, great fighter, and no version of Anderson Silva would’ve ever matched up well against him.
 
Well, Weidman did k pick him out so I’d say it’s a legit loss. Was it a fluke loss? Maybe. Silva made a huge error and Weidman wasn’t afraid of him, pushed forward and knocked him out cold. I’m still a bit butt hurt over that, but I’m no longer on suicide watch. Joking aside, Weidman won but I still don’t know who would have won if the rematch did not end in a freak injury (Weidman “training” those checks is a joke, it was a freak injury period).
 
Fioretti said:
It looks so sloppy and spontaneous to me, though. If he did drill it, anticipate, and plan this, he deserves all the credit in the world. If he didn't, Silva is more to blame for his fuckery.
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It seems a bit of a strange thing to just throw in at random to me though, especially someone like Weidman who I wouldnt otherwise call a very spontaneous fighter, besides that ill fated spinning kick vs Rockhold I can't think if too many unexpected moments from him, he's typically more of a game planner.

It works really well though I think, Silva is expecting left/rights and it allows Weidman to double up on the rights fast and get him off balance.

Really I don't see some horrible mistake by Silva there personally, I just see him taking a bit of a risk to try and get Weidman to become sloppy to counter and Chris having planned well for it.
 
moreorless87 said:
It seems a bit of a strange thing to just throw in at random to me though, especially someone like Weidman who I wouldnt otherwise call a very spontaneous fighter, besides that ill fated spinning kick vs Rockhold I can't think if too many unexpected moments from him, he's typically more of a game planner.

It works really well though I think, Silva is expecting left/rights and it allows Weidman to double up on the rights fast and get him off balance.

Really I don't see some horrible mistake by Silva there personally, I just see him taking a bit of a risk to try and get Weidman to become sloppy to counter and Chris having planned well for it.
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The flick threw Anderson’s timing off, causing him to lean into the punch that knocked him out. Don’t know if Weidman drilled it or not, but it worked perfectly.
 
moreorless87 said:
It seems a bit of a strange thing to just throw in at random to me though, especially someone like Weidman who I wouldnt otherwise call a very spontaneous fighter, besides that ill fated spinning kick vs Rockhold I can't think if too many unexpected moments from him, he's typically more of a game planner.

It works really well though I think, Silva is expecting left/rights and it allows Weidman to double up on the rights fast and get him off balance.

Really I don't see some horrible mistake by Silva there personally, I just see him taking a bit of a risk to try and get Weidman to become sloppy to counter and Chris having planned well for it.
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It looks to be thrown spontaneously, out of frustration. The excessive clowning he did was prior to the last sequence. Closed eyes shimmy, gyrating shakey shit, and all that. I've wanted someone to ask The Chris if it was planned or not for years now.

Starman said:
The flick threw Anderson’s timing off, causing him to lean into the punch that knocked him out. Don’t know if Weidman drilled it or not, but it worked perfectly.
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Definitely worked. The question, for me, is whether or not it was planned/practiced/drilled. I don't think it was.
 
Fioretti said:
It looks to be thrown spontaneously, out of frustration. The excessive clowning he did was prior to the last sequence. Closed eyes shimmy, gyrating shakey shit, and all that. I've wanted someone to ask The Chris if it was planned or not for years now.




Definitely worked. The question, for me, is whether or not it was planned/practiced/drilled. I don't think it was.
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An interview confirms that it was planned.
 
"Without bias" is not a thing, if you don't want to express a bias you shut up.
 
Anderson had done the same thing in the past to set up counters, that's how he fought.
 
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