Without bias, did Silva lose his first fight to Chris or did Chris really win?
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Dude.
he couldnt do any of that stuff. That is WHY he was clowning,because he was trying to keep the chris off him,and figure some shit out. I think it was working too. He had the chris doubting himself and wondering if he was being played with or not,and anderson was landing kicks.
Im tellin you tho,its because he could not win in a normal way,with his normal skills. He had to use trickery and deception,which Anderson is a MASTER at. He was trying to get chris pissed and lure him in. So he faked like he got rocked,but when the chris came in,he missed the punch he wanted to hit him with.
To his credit,anderson despite all that still adjusted and dodged those punches,cos Chris was pissed off and throwing wild. The backhand changed everything.
But he was "fucking around" cos he was LOSING,and was trying another way. His normal shit wasnt working.
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Silva acted clownish in all his fights and no one else got him.
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I don't have time to go through your posts to see if you're trolling or not, but I think you should re-watch that fight. Anderson was never in the fight. Either fight. He got owned for damn near every minute of the fight and Wide Man never looked gassed to me. I'm not sure which opportunities you're referring to. He was pretty much on defense the whole time. He never had momentum in either fight.
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Exactly. Some of us actually watched the fight and didn't just see the highlight reel finish. LOL. Anderson was never in the fight. Either fight. I will always be an Anderson fan. It was tough a few times when he put on boring sparring matches. But he's a legend. And even still, I don't need to make excuses for him. Chris was the better fighter at that point. IV rehydration Weidman was a monster. And like I said before, we can't forget what Chael did to Anderson. If Chael could do that, it's not hard to believe that Chris (better than Chael) could do better. Chris was simply the better fighter at that stage in their careers.
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Nah. He was fucking around excessively because he was showing off to his hero who was watching live. He was lobbying for a fight with RJJ at the time. Yes, he did similar things previously to bait his opponents. This was just extremely excessive, even for him. The narrative that he was doing this because he was losing is just revisionist bullshit. More times than not, Silva would take it easy in the beginning to feel out his opponent. I'm sure The Chris's mild success in the first round played a little part, of course, but it wasn't the only reason, nor was he losing as bad as most try to make it out to be. Chris was getting tired and sloppy. Silva stuffed 2 out of 3 takedowns in the fight, Chris hadn't landed a single strike in the 2nd round until the fight ending sequence, while Silva landed all but one in the second. Silva's little eyes closed shimmy bullshit is something he had never done prior to this fight. That weird gyrating shakey shit is also something he had never done. He was fucking around more than we had seen, it wasn't his normal shit. It wasn't because he was losing so bad as so many of you claim, especially in the second round when the fight was going exactly as he wanted and The Chris hadn't done a fucking thing.
That said, I'm still extremely curious if The Chris had planned and worked that backhand. I'm not aware of anybody ever asking him specifically about that combo in any interviews. Every time I see him in an interview I want to ask him. Lol.
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All nonsense. He was getting fuckin destroyed and was desperate.
I dont think think Chris planned it. I think he was pissed off and throwin wild.
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Silva spent his whole career goofing in the cage to throw his opponents off or bait them in. It’s part of his game. It failed against Chris. It’s not an excuse.
Second fight ended in a freak injury sure. Silva also lost a 10-8 first round. Sad for some people to hear, but in 2013 Chris was the better fighter.
Second fight ended in a freak injury sure. Silva also lost a 10-8 first round. Sad for some people to hear, but in 2013 Chris was the better fighter.
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He planned it. He had an interview where his coach noticed the pattern where Silva was good to slip with punches when the attacker did basic left right left right. He said that doubling down on left or right was planned. Weidman doubled the right hand (straight right + backhand right) and TADA the chin was right there to meet the left hook.
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I’ve always been a big fan of Silva, but he had nothing for Weidman in either of those fights. He had trouble landing effective strikes and was getting tagged. He was still working in his head movement decent, but Weidman was prepared on the feet.
I think the difference was that Weidman wasn’t defeated prior to going in there. All the previous opponents felt like they were walking into their funeral with Silva. Well besides Chael, but he found a way to sabotage himself. lol
I think the difference was that Weidman wasn’t defeated prior to going in there. All the previous opponents felt like they were walking into their funeral with Silva. Well besides Chael, but he found a way to sabotage himself. lol
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The Chris won it.
It's just that he happened to be the one of the very few guys to be able to be winning vs. Silva without biting into the shenanigans and Silva "clowned too much" in an attempt to finally draw him into the web when the regular amount of antics did not work. Didn't Weidman even admit that Silva NEARLY pulled him in with the shenanigans?
Weidman was winning, Silva tried to up the antics to turn the tide and that backfired spectacularly. That was always my read of the fight. That compared to the other time someone did not play into Silva's hands - vs. Sonnen. Where Silva stayed calm and collected all the time until Chael's pathological need to fuck up the big spots cost him the fight.
It's just that he happened to be the one of the very few guys to be able to be winning vs. Silva without biting into the shenanigans and Silva "clowned too much" in an attempt to finally draw him into the web when the regular amount of antics did not work. Didn't Weidman even admit that Silva NEARLY pulled him in with the shenanigans?
Weidman was winning, Silva tried to up the antics to turn the tide and that backfired spectacularly. That was always my read of the fight. That compared to the other time someone did not play into Silva's hands - vs. Sonnen. Where Silva stayed calm and collected all the time until Chael's pathological need to fuck up the big spots cost him the fight.
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This has always been one of the dumbest debates ever. Silva uses that as part of his game, throws the guys off mentally, timing wise and for counters, it's a huge part of his game. He got caught this time doing just that. That's it, bottom line. How is this not really f'ing simple?
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Anderson and Weidman fought for a total of 12 and a half minutes in the cage between two bouts, and in that time frame Silva was almost knocked out on two separate occasions, was legitimately knocked out once, barely escaped a kneebar, and had his leg broken. At literally no point in those 12 and a half minutes was Anderson ever winning, or was even remotely competitive with Weidman. 15 minutes is the normal length of time for a fight. If those two fights were the same fight, and Anderson had somehow survived, Weidman would've won a clear decision with one or two 10-8 rounds thrown in there for either a 30-26 or 30-25 victory for Weidman.
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In their first bout:
Anderson landed 4 standing head strikes and 1 body blow in round 1
Weidman landed 8 standing head strikes and 0 body blows in round 1
Anderson landed 0 standing head strikes and 0 body blows in round 2
Weidman landed 2 standing head strikes and 0 body blows in round 2
So over the course of 6 minutes and 18 seconds:
Anderson landed 4 standing head strikes and 1 body blow
Weidman landed 10 standing head strikes and 0 body blows
Silva was not in control on the feet, nor landing more powerful shots... He only landed 4 head strikes in the bout total.
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And it will haunt us to our graves lol.
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Weidman got really good there for a bit after the Silva saga. Imo, Anderson was trying to forest griffin him, but wasn't focused enough due to him being cocky. If he was laser focused like the griffin fight then it would be a different story.
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you know whats crazy. at this point i dont know if ppl are trolling, dumb, or what? like, it cant be the average sherdogger's opinion that silva was winning either fight, can it? seriously, silva lost like every minute of each fight. some ppl say the judging in ufc is bad (it is), but imagine the average 6'4 jacked sherdogger was a judge. theyd give silva round 1. my god.
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if my aunt had balls shed be my uncle.
(jeez i dont know if thats an acceptable phrase anymore, haha)
if i had a million dollars, id be a millionaire.
I always felt that Silva was only clowning around because Weidman beat the crap out of him in the first round, so Silva wanted to bait him into overcommitting to striking and forgetting about the wrestling. It worked. Weidman was clearly starting to get angry/flustered.
