Will all the small business be replaced by chains and franchises?

I support local food places when I can. Just after work today I ate at a diner that is openly defying the MN shut down order.
 
superpunch said:
It just occurred to me that someone that wants to set up their own business needs to save up for like a decade. Then make a business plan. Then get a loan from a bank using their decade of savings as collateral. That takes a looooong time. So, the small businesses that all got shut down aren't getting replaced by new small businesses any time soon.

Meanwhile, big chains and franchises already have their business model made. They have access to lines of capital. They can just swoop in to the empty buildings and set up shop 1 week after everyone is vaccinated the pandemic is over.

Are all the bars going to be replaced by big corporate sports bars and stuff? Restaurants replaced by franchise restaurants?
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What about SBA?
 
superpunch said:
It just occurred to me that someone that wants to set up their own business needs to save up for like a decade. Then make a business plan. Then get a loan from a bank using their decade of savings as collateral. That takes a looooong time. So, the small businesses that all got shut down aren't getting replaced by new small businesses any time soon.

Meanwhile, big chains and franchises already have their business model made. They have access to lines of capital. They can just swoop in to the empty buildings and set up shop 1 week after everyone is vaccinated the pandemic is over.

Are all the bars going to be replaced by big corporate sports bars and stuff? Restaurants replaced by franchise restaurants?
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I'm short, yes.

Not everywhere, but in the US, yes. And it's not because of the restrictions. All major nations did those and many made theirs far stricter.

The reason it will happen in the US is because, unlike those other major nations, US small businesses did not receive robust relief. Republicans specifically blocked it - and further yet exempted large businesses from sick pay requirements - so their donors could gulp up the assets and market shares of small business.

The people blaming it on the incontrovertibly necessary lockdown measures that every country enacted are just fucking stupid. If that was the point of the "plandemic," then the plan failed literally everywhere but here.
 
The government gave our bailout money to the large corporations and political donors. They're fighting now on whether to bail-out the little guys. My moneys on NO.

If you keep electing millionaires and corporate lobbyists into office in what is supposed to be a representative democracy, dont be surprised when you end up with policies that only benefit millionaires, large corporations and donors.

If everyone just elected the guy down the street from them instead of trying to elect rich people, their interests would be better represented. The average rich person has no idea how the majority lives anymore; the wealth gap has gotten way too wide.
 
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They are killing off the small businesses so that corporate owned businesses are all that exist and the commies will use the corporate owned businesses to force vaccinate. Only 1 place to shop and you can't shop unless you show them your covid vax history
 
Some are no doubt gone for good.

Some new ones will open up.

Its not like our legislative branches couldn't pass some small business supporting legislation if we really wanted them to. You guys normally love it when Republicans obstruct and carry water for mega corps

Covid might have sped it up but this was already going on with Walmart and then Amazon and certain posters in here are crying crocodile tears.

To some of you guys ..... maybe you don't believe in free markets quite as much as you thought and want to rethink the libertarian thing.
 
TheChosenKing said:
Or maybe we could just not do govt mandated shutdowns
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You are right that we should just let the chips fall where they may. I mean it's not like covid isn't spreading like wild fire with people trying to mitigate it already. Let's see how bad things can get
 
Gutter Chris said:
Yes
You are right that we should just let the chips fall where they may. I mean it's not like covid isn't spreading like wild fire with people trying to mitigate it already. Let's see how bad things can get
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Covid is not as bad as the media and the left is telling you and it doesn't warrant shutting business down for 2021 as well.
 
Papi Chulo said:
Covid is not as bad as the media and the left is telling you and it doesn't warrant shutting business down for 2021 as well.
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Covids pretty nasty dude. Letting it run wild seems a pretty bad idea to me.

I think it might help if our country wasn't full of clowns like you who think anytime the government serves anything but capital its communism. Maybe a few more of those small businesses you're upset about would be able to survive.
 
Gutter Chris said:
Some are no doubt gone for good.

Some new ones will open up.

Its not like our legislative branches couldn't pass some small business supporting legislation if we really wanted them to. You guys normally love it when Republicans obstruct and carry water for mega corps

Covid might have sped it up but this was already going on with Walmart and then Amazon and certain posters in here are crying crocodile tears.

To some of you guys ..... maybe you don't believe in free markets quite as much as you thought and want to rethink the libertarian thing.
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There is a small restaurant just down the road from me that has had probably five different owners during the past five years. If I really wanted to, I could probably afford to the be the sixth and lose all my money due to poor location or a bad business plan.

But it must just be communism.
 
giusti825 said:
The government gave our bailout money to the large corporations and political donors. They're fighting now on whether to bail-out the little guys. My moneys on NO.

If you keep electing millionaires and corporate lobbyists into office in what is supposed to be a representative democracy, dont be surprised when you end up with policies that only benefit millionaires, large corporations and donors.

If everyone just elected the guy down the street from them instead of trying to elect rich people, there interests would be better represented. The average rich person has no idea how the majority lives anymore; the wealth gap has gotten way too wide.
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You can look at exactly who is for and against the bill in congress. There is a voting record. Its pretty fucking clear which party stands where.

The outlier is Trump, who is on the Democrat side for the first time ever.
 
Day Drinking said:
You can look at exactly who is for and against the bill in congress. There is a voting record. Its pretty fucking clear which party stands where.

The outlier is Trump, who is on the Democrat side for the first time ever.
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This goes beyond red team/blue team. There are heavy class elements here.

Pelosi had the opportunity to take a 1.8T offer before the election. She chose not to in order to hurt Trumps chances of re-election. If she lived how the people she represents lived, she would've understood that people forced by the government to stay out of work due to a pandemic need relief in exchange for cooperation. Instead, she put a political goal ahead of the needs of the people.

88% of Democratic party voters are in favor of medicare for all, however, politicians, even on the Dem side of the aisle take huge campaign donations (bribes) from big pharma and insurance companies. Because the politicians dont want to lose that money they betray the will of the voters. Jim Clyburn represents South Carolinas 6th district, a relatively poor district that is strongly in favor of medicare for all, however, Clyburn is the biggest congressional recipient of pharma and insurance money, so he won't support what his people want.

Donors make politicians rich in exchange for them screwing over the electorate; this is not a recent problem nor one unique to Republicans.
 
giusti825 said:
This goes beyond red team/blue team. There are heavy class elements here.

Pelosi had the opportunity to take a 1.8T offer before the election. She chose not to in order to hurt Trumps chances of re-election. If she lived how the people she represents lived, she would've understood that people forced by the government to stay out of work due to a pandemic need relief in exchange for cooperation. Instead, she put a political goal ahead of the needs of the people.

88% of Democratic party voters are in favor of medicare for all, however, politicians, even on the Dem side of the aisle take huge campaign donations (bribes) from big pharma and insurance companies. Because the politicians dont want to lose that money they betray the will of the voters. Jim Clyburn represents South Carolinas 6th district, a relatively poor district that is strongly in favor of medicare for all, however, Clyburn is the biggest congressional recipient of pharma and insurance money, so he won't support what his people want.

Donors make politicians rich in exchange for them screwing over the electorate; this is not a recent problem nor one unique to Republicans.
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Yes, I meant just that specific issue it is still dems vs republicans as opposed to dems vs what people actually want.
 
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