Wilder leaves Breland

[WklySportsMemes]

here you go



I am sure I can understand a lot more complex things than you.....get over yourself

That quote doesnt say anything thats not factual or support you stupid accusation

 

[WklySportsMemes]

here you go



I am sure I can understand a lot more complex things than you.....get over yourself

There you go insulting intelligence again when above you dont know the difference between your and you're...remember you started it the intelligence call out. Only fair to point that out

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Baffling how wilders number one fan wants too see his idol risk brain damage by taking the extra 2/3 shots before the ref stopped it ref already gave him the extra 1.39 seconds to do something other than take a pummelling

Lol boxing is a risk for brain damage IN GENERAL genius. He was at risk of getting knocked out. Anything else is speculation from people not qualified enough to have valid insight.

 

[Sanserif]

A boxer's corner is not just there to be his yes men to do whatever he wants and to allow himself to get beaten to death in the ring - because that is what go out on ones shield means. The ancient Spartans would rather die on he battlefield than to come back beaten. But the squared ring is not a battlefield and a boxing match is not a live or die event.

The corner is there to watch out for the boxer, and sometimes even against his own judgement to protect him from himself. Breland was doing his job when he threw in the towel.

 

[Sanserif]

Lol boxing is a risk for brain damage IN GENERAL genius. He was at risk of getting knocked out. Anything else is speculation from people not qualified enough to have valid insight.

The damage can build up cumulatively over time or it can spike so high over the course of a fight as a result of an overmatched fighter getting beaten tona pulp that the risk of fatal injury becomes too high. I after all that is exactly why referees are instructed to stop the fighting mediately if the boxer looks like they cannot defend themselves anymore because precisely of this risk of being killed. On average 13 boxers die in the ring every year so this is a very serious and real risk.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...g-deaths-patrick-day-spt-intl-trnd/index.html

Therefore it is not for wilder to insist that he wants to go out on his shield and to instruct his corner to allow him to do so. In fact his remaining coach who disagreed wth breland ought to be censured and disciplined by the fight licensing authorities for taking such a position

 

[WklySportsMemes]

The damage can build up cumulatively over time or it can spike so high over the course of a fight as a result of an overmatched fighter getting beaten tona pulp that the risk of fatal injury becomes too high. I after all that is exactly why referees are instructed to stop the fighting mediately if the boxer looks like they cannot defend themselves anymore because precisely of this risk of being killed. On average 13 boxers die in the ring every year so this is a very serious and real risk.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...g-deaths-patrick-day-spt-intl-trnd/index.html

Therefore it is not for wilder to insist that he wants to go out on his shield and to instruct his corner to allow him to do so. In fact his remaining coach who disagreed wth breland ought to be censured and disciplined by the fight licensing authorities for taking such a position

If you dont want to risk your brain or life don't box....
I support an adult male in a free country making his own choice. I dont support couch dwellers making up rules for somebody else.
The reason why Wilder is super successful, wealthy, an Olympic medalist, a world champion, and once the baddest dude on the planet is because he doesn't think like a normal person. Its because he's willing to put his life on the line for his goals and his dream. Many of you dont understand principles and people being able to determine their own.

 

[Sanserif]

If you dont want to risk your brain or life don't box....
I support an adult male in a free country making his own choice. I dont support couch dwellers making up rules for somebody else.
The reason why Wilder is super successful, wealthy, an Olympic medalist, a world champion, and once the baddest dude on the planet is because he doesn't think like a normal person. Its because he's willing to put his life on the line for his goals and his dream. Many of you dont understand principles and people being able to determine their own.

The boxing licensing authorities would not agree with you on that point.

Professional boxing is a social and business construct that is only allowed to exist as long as the sport doesnt exceed a certain line where death and injury is concerned. It is not up to the boxer alone to decide if he wanted to die in preference to conceding defeat.

Professional boxing has always been never allowed a free for all to the death approach among fighters and corner men and coaches in its bid to make it a socially accepted sport with mass appeal and that is allowed to be run under the law. This is seen in the adoption of rules and the changing of rules and traditions over the years to make the sport safer. If every boxer and coach and corner man had the attitude that you espouse, many more deaths would be caused and boxing would be inevitably banned.

 

[HHJ]

these are the kinds of things you expect out of an amateur like wilder. they say Ali thanked Dundee for stopping the holmes fight and that Chacon thanked Richard steele when Mancini was bludgeoning him, both would have went on and both knew they weren't going to get any better on those nights because they were experienced professionals and knew that to quit themselves is against the code of the prizefighter.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

The boxing licensing authorities would not agree with you on that point.

Professional boxing is a social and business construct that is only allowed to exist as long as the sport doesnt exceed a certain line where death and injury is concerned. It is not up to the boxer alone to decide if he wanted to die in preference to conceding defeat.

Professional boxing has always been never allowed a free for all to the death approach among fighters and corner men and coaches in its bid to make it a socially accepted sport with mass appeal and that is allowed to be run under the law. This is seen in the adoption of rules and the changing of rules and traditions over the years to make the sport safer. If every boxer and coach and corner man had the attitude that you espouse, many more deaths would be caused and boxing would be inevitably banned.

Boxing is a dangerous sport period. No matter how much you try to sanitize it or romanatize it. If the main goal was to protect fighters and make it safe professional boxing would look exactly like amateur boxing. You have to understand the main goal with a lot of the rules is to avoid liability, make the sport more TV friendly to a wider audience, and to pacify critics politically.
Any time a pro fighter is making that walk many of them will tell you they know and are willing to risk their life. Some dont and do say the opposite though.
Again Wilder was not on death's door.
Should every fight be stopped pre knockout?
Should ever fight be stopped after a bad concussive knockdown?
Should every fight be stopped after a standing 8 count because somebody is hurt and down on cards?
Any boxing fan through out the years has seen fighters in Wilder's situations come back to win, lose, and or draw to live and fight another day.
Should we rob sport of one if its most beautiful lessons, inspirations, and attributes? The notion of being down and out with no hope but putting together a miracle comeback (most likely not Wilder's case but he has that right). Its a sport with real life Rocky moments.

 

[Sanserif]

Boxing is a dangerous sport period. No matter how much you try to sanitize it or romanatize it. If the main goal was to protect fighters and make it safe professional boxing would look exactly like amateur boxing. You have to understand the main goal with a lot of the rules is to avoid liability, make the sport more TV friendly to a wider audience, and to pacify critics politically.
Any time a pro fighter is making that walk many of them will tell you they know and are willing to risk their life. Some dont and do say the opposite though.
Again Wilder was not on death's door.
Should every fight be stopped pre knockout?
Should ever fight be stopped after a bad concussive knockdown?
Should every fight be stopped after a standing 8 count because somebody is hurt and down on cards?
Any boxing fan through out the years has seen fighters in Wilder's situations come back to win, lose, and or draw to live and fight another day.
Should we rob sport of one if its most beautiful lessons, inspirations, and attributes? The notion of being down and out with no hope but putting together a miracle comeback (most likely not Wilder's case but he has that right). Its a sport with real life Rocky moments.

The inherent risks of boxing are always present but all the rules in boxing and the different roles played by the referee and the Corner men are there to protect the fighter from being unnecessarily hurt so as to reduce the risk of being killed in the ring. Of course one of the purpose is to managed liability issues but the liability comes from the risk of being killed in the ring.

Wilder's corner man threw in the towel
towel because he believed that his boxer was not able to protect himself effectively anymore and was taking unnecessary damage. That is his job and responsibility. Breland did nothing wrong and wilder is wrong to expect his corner man to abrogate his responsibility and allow him to be beaten to the ground.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

The inherent risks of boxing are always present but all the rules in boxing and the different roles played by the referee and the Corner men are there to protect the fighter from being unnecessarily hurt so as to reduce the risk of being killed in the ring. Of course one of the purpose is to managed liability issues but the liability comes from the risk of being killed in the ring.

Wilder's corner man threw in the towel
towel because he believed that his boxer was not able to protect himself effectively anymore and was taking unnecessary damage. That is his job and responsibility. Breland did nothing wrong and wilder is wrong to expect his corner man to abrogate his responsibility and allow him to be beaten to the ground.

You didn't answer any of the legit questions I asked.
Also, another question for you. Who pays Breland? Who's corner is it?
If Breland did not stop the fight was he at risk for losing his license? No he would not of been.

 

[RDL81]

You didn't answer any of the legit questions I asked.
Also, another question for you. Who pays Breland? Who's corner is it?
If Breland did not stop the fight was he at risk for losing his license? No he would not of been.

Your missing the point

Breland didn’t stop the fight the ref did. He could have ignored the towel, it’s his sole discretion as to whether he stopped it or not.

You keep saying the below as if wilder should have been given the benefit of the doubt and a chance to continue

“The notion of being down and out with no hope but putting together a miracle comeback (most likely not Wilder's case but he has that right).”

but the ref had already given him that chance at the end of the 6th and he didn’t take it.

“I had concerns for Deontay and I asked him if he wanted to continue, and he wanted to continue, because Deontay is a warrior,” Bayless told RingTV.com Sunday morning after the fight. “But I looked in on him after the sixth, because I had concerns about him. He was taking too much punishment. If the corner didn’t stop it, I was very close to stopping it myself.”

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Your missing the point

Breland didn’t stop the fight the ref did.

WRONG! I stopped reading at this blantenley FALSE STATEMENT. You have an issue where you consistently and litterally make shit up non stop. More proof you didn't even watch or follow it. That's not what happened. Multiple times this has been told to you but you keep running with your false narratives. Go away. No long post or explanation needed from you. Here are the direct quotes from the ref.
Bayless saying he didn't stop it but the corner did. Bayless saying he was CLOSE to stopping it.

Bayless quote > your false narrative.

 

[RDL81]

WRONG! I stopped reading at this blantenley FALSE STATEMENT. You have an issue where you consistently and litterally make shit up non stop. More proof you didn't even watch or follow it. That's not what happened. Multiple times this has been told to you but you keep running with your false narratives. Go away. No long post or explanation needed from you. Here are the direct quotes from the ref.
Breland saying he didn't stop it but the corner did. Bayless saying he was CLOSE to stopping it.
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Bayless quote > your false narrative.
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But it’s not a false statement is it

2. The referee is the sole arbiter of a bout and is the only individual authorized to stop a contest

You quoted same as me so you sure you didn’t read the rest of the post?

Ref isn’t obliged to stop the fight if the towel comes in most cases they do but they don’t have too and notable cases when they don’t. In this case he did as he was on the verge of stopping it end of the pervious round like he said. Again making you wrong he should have been given the chance to continue.....as I said above he was already given that end of the previous round.

Not made up anything have I? You just hate being wrong so much don’t you that you need to get overly personal call out spelling errors etc etc

 

[Jonny Ninja]

The damage can build up cumulatively over time or it can spike so high over the course of a fight as a result of an overmatched fighter getting beaten tona pulp that the risk of fatal injury becomes too high. I after all that is exactly why referees are instructed to stop the fighting mediately if the boxer looks like they cannot defend themselves anymore because precisely of this risk of being killed. On average 13 boxers die in the ring every year so this is a very serious and real risk.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...g-deaths-patrick-day-spt-intl-trnd/index.html

Therefore it is not for wilder to insist that he wants to go out on his shield and to instruct his corner to allow him to do so. In fact his remaining coach who disagreed wth breland ought to be censured and disciplined by the fight licensing authorities for taking such a position

dont get drawn in dude, these guys will be flogging this dead horse for a good number of pages more

 

[WklySportsMemes]

But it’s not a false statement is it

2. The referee is the sole arbiter of a bout and is the only individual authorized to stop a contest

You quoted same as me so you sure you didn’t read the rest of the post?

Ref isn’t obliged to stop the fight if the towel comes in most cases they do but they don’t have too and notable cases when they don’t. In this case he did as he was on the verge of stopping it end of the pervious round like he said. Again making you wrong he should have been given the chance to continue.....as I said above he was already given that end of the previous round.

Not made up anything have I? You just hate being wrong so much don’t you that you need to get overly personal call out spelling errors etc etc

Breland's & Bayless' own quotes > your made up stories.

 

[RDL81]

Breland's & Bayless' own quotes > your made up stories.

Took you 20min to write that....should have spent that reading the rules

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Took you 20min to write that....should have spent that reading the rules

Grow up. You have nothing of value to contribute but weird fake news.
Dont be upset that people can directly read Bayless' or Breland's simple quotes to prove you wrong. I dont have to take your backwards twist on it.
Close does not = it was going to happen.

 

[RDL81]

Grow up. You have nothing of value to contribute but weird fake news.
Dont be upset that people can directly read Bayless' or Breland's simple quotes to prove you wrong. I dont have to take your backwards twist on it.
Close does not = it was going to happen.

I am saying the rules state only the ref can stop the fight. You said that was a BLATANTLY FALSE statement which it isn’t.

If the ref thought wilder was in a position to continue he could have ignored the towel. He obviously agreed with Breland and his quotes back that up.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

I am saying the the ref thought wilder was in a position to continue he could have ignored the towel.

Argue semantics elsewhere..
P4P the dumbest thing ever posted in this section.
There is no ref that would see a towel or a fighter /corner request to stop the fight and deny it.
I guarantee THAT would lead to the ref losing his license.