Wilder leaves Breland

RDL81 said:
Let’s see who wins the third fight
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Why? So at least half of you guys could ignore the factual outcome and claim it as a Fury victory if it doesn't go your way like the 1st fight. At least Wilder fans here acknowledge the official results and concede to the fact that Fury was the better fighter at that time and still may be.

Even if Wilder loses again, it doesn't mean he made the wrong decision getting rid of Mark.
 
WklySportsMemes said:
Why? So at least half of you guys could ignore the factual outcome and claim it as a Fury victory if it doesn't go your way like the 1st fight. At least Wilder fans here acknowledge the official results and concede to the fact that Fury was the better fighter at that time and still may be.

Even if Wilder loses again, it doesn't mean he made the wrong decision getting rid of Mark.
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First fight was a draw....not a wilder victory due to a long count....2nd fight was a one sided beat down not a lucky win due to loaded gloves/costume/towel going in just as he was about to land a KO.

I am not saying he shouldn’t get rid of mark it’s his choice fighters change trainers all the time but again I just think it’s his ego.

I have also said numerous times a i not a big fan of fury anyway
 
RDL81 said:
First fight was a draw....not a wilder victory due to a long count....2nd fight was a one sided beat down not a lucky win due to loaded gloves/costume/towel going in just as he was about to land a KO.

I am not saying he shouldn’t get rid of mark it’s his choice fighters change trainers all the time but again I just think it’s his ego.

I have also said numerous times a i not a big fan of fury anyway
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I agree with the 1st part....
Would you agree that people creating their own false narrative of a Fury win by points in the 1st fight is the same as people creating the long count victory for Wilder?

He has a dozen other legitimate reasons to make the change as pointed out especially with having 0 insight of their interaction to just say ego.
As pointed out in numerous threads on this plenty of champs have made crazy excuses and still came back to a title or big wins.
 
mozfonky said:
yes men and asskissers are the worst kind of "friend" to have.
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Kovalev's "Man Bag" said:
It's a matter of perspective, really. From Wilder's perspective Breland knew full well in advance never to throw the towel yet he did it anyway (whether his intentions were good or not, and they were, is beside the point). Wilder has changed his mind about Breland staying on the team because he's naturally concerned it could happen again in the future.

From our perspective him canning Breland, who had been with him since day one as a pro, looks like a dick move, but we're also not part of Team Wilder. If somebody on my team couldn't be trusted not to throw the towel if I'm in trouble then I'd axe them too. What other option would you have aside from benching Breland for the most important fights of your career? And, if you're going to do that, then why pay him as a co-trainer at all if they won't be there to work your biggest fights? You'd have no other choice.
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Guy saved him from taking unnecessary damage. If I was a fighter I would want a trainer who was actually looking out for me. Most people would. He made it so that Wilder can actually go for a rematch. The fact Wilder can’t see this says a lot about him.
 
Kovalev's "Man Bag" said:
It's not nonsense. Breland just got canned over it because he broke the code that was put in place from the very beginning (as Jay Deas also confirmed). Again, put yourself in Wilder's shoes in the biggest fight of his life with tens of millions of dollars on the line. You wouldn't want a team member being the one to decide against your own wishes, as the fighter in there, just when you've had enough. I've defended Breland since he threw the towel but I also understand where Wilder's coming from.
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If you were a trainer and even saw yourself as a friend to someone and saw them getting their head bashed in what would you do? Would you let the fighters pride decide or would you want to save the fighters health and possibly their life? If a person can’t make a rational decision for themselves then it is up to others to do so.
 
Homervanderjaz said:
Guy saved him from taking unnecessary damage. If I was a fighter I would want a trainer who was actually looking out for me. Most people would. He made it so that Wilder can actually go for a rematch. The fact Wilder can’t see this says a lot about him.
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Nah I think most fighters would want to go out on their shield. Which is why they are fighters. You guys get that Chavez Jr and Victor Ortiz are not the norm of most fighters right?
Also, his life or a rematch were not in danger.
 
Just another excuse from Wilder, let him be if he thinks this will improve him, he is a grown man who wont be beating Fury anytime soon, i will be surprised if he even fights him again
 
WklySportsMemes said:
Why? So at least half of you guys could ignore the factual outcome and claim it as a Fury victory if it doesn't go your way like the 1st fight. At least Wilder fans here acknowledge the official results and concede to the fact that Fury was the better fighter at that time and still may be.

Even if Wilder loses again, it doesn't mean he made the wrong decision getting rid of Mark.
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One questionable draw and an absolute demolition. He can hire and fire whoever he wants, he's fucked.
 
cocksure said:
One questionable draw and an absolute demolition. He can hire and fire whoever he wants, he's fucked.
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Its not outlandish to think that the greatest KO artist of all time can stop a guy who he dropped twice before and "questionably" beat the count.
 
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Makes total sense - Wilder needs to put the blame somewhere else and then purge it.

Without self confidence he is nothing in the ring - deep down he knows this, so its a smart move on the surface, though in his heart he now knows he’s not invincible.

Fury is gonna bend his mind inside out if they fight again.
 
WklySportsMemes said:
Nah I think most fighters would want to go out on their shield. Which is why they are fighters. You guys get that Chavez Jr and Victor Ortiz are not the norm of most fighters right?
Also, his life or a rematch were not in danger.
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You obviously don’t box
 
WklySportsMemes said:
I agree with the 1st part....
Would you agree that people creating their own false narrative of a Fury win by points in the 1st fight is the same as people creating the long count victory for Wilder?
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Not really as it wasn’t a long count he was responding to refs count and it easily could have been scored in fury favour and prob would have been if wilder wasn’t the champ.....but that happens all the time in boxing and is what it is
 
RDL81 said:
You obviously don’t box
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Lol more false narratives based on your lack of knowledge. You don't and don't even watch it as you were exposed for it in the Whyte thread.
 
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RDL81 said:
Not really as it wasn’t a long count he was responding to refs count and it easily could have been scored in fury favour and prob would have been if wilder wasn’t the champ.....but that happens all the time in boxing and is what it is
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You still don't get that the count is not timed and subjective just like the scoring... Calling one B.S. is no different than the other. Forget the count then a lot of refs would of ruled it a walk off.

Lol same softies arguing that the ref should of stopped the 2nd fight to prevent damage are some how ignoring the much harder and worse conclusive shot Wilder landed on Fury in the 1st one. Guess that would should of been stopped by your own tard logic.
 
WklySportsMemes said:
You still don't get that the count is not timed and subjective just like the scoring... Calling one B.S. is no different than the other. Forget the count then a lot of refs would of ruled it a walk off.

Lol same softies arguing that the ref should of stopped the 2nd fight to prevent damage are some how ignoring the much harder and worse conclusive shot Wilder landed on Fury in the 1st one. Guess that would should of been stopped by your own tard logic.
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You know f all you really do!! I didn’t call The scoring BS did i your twisting it again.

Fury told ref he was fine in the 12th he was always going to get a count as he was winning the fight. It wasn’t a conclusive punch he was fine after. Ref will stop fights if they are seeing in answered punches and wilder was a human punch bag in that fight and at the finish which is why he went to the ER
 
WklySportsMemes said:
Lol more false narratives based on your lack of knowledge. You don't and don't even watch it as you were exposed for it in the Whyte thread.
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Don’t I? Funny I don’t ever see you posting in the training discussion....
 
RDL81 said:
....Fury told ref he was fine in the 12th he was always going to get a count as he was winning the fight.
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lol thats 100% not how boxing works lmao. What a joke. Plenty of examples of this too. They were pointed out last time you made this incorrect claim.
Concussion flat on back out > still standing.
 
WklySportsMemes said:
lol thats 100% not how boxing works lmao. What a joke. Plenty of examples of this too. They were pointed out last time you made this incorrect claim.
Concussion flat on back out > still standing.
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But he wasn’t was he the ref has said as much not going to get into the count debate again. You can be as deluded as you want about your idol
 
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