Why to not watch BJJ videos?

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Hi, i'm new to bjj and to this forum. Just started two weeks ago in the "most succesfull gym in Finland". There is a beginners' course you have to go through. Complimenting the mat training i've been watching a lot of bjj videos.

By reading couple of topics consider video watching, i have noticed a strong opposition against watching technique videos as a white belt. Some approve the watching of technique videos of the techniques you've first learned on class. And almost everyone approve watching matches and highlights. Why is this so? Why you should not watch? Why you should?

P.S. the use of "youtube techniques" is forbidden at the gym at least for us beginners.
 
i always watched a ton of videos.

there is nothing wrong with complimenting mat training with additional instruction, but there is a catch. when you're a complete noob, you really have no idea what you're doing, and no way of knowing whether or not a certain technique is bullshit.

watching shawn williams explain the details of the armbar from mount is great, for any level. watching some random twat demonstrating some ridiculous gi choke from bottom mount (possibly involving entangling your foot into your partners gi) is bad.

as long as you stick to basics and high level instructors when watching things online, you'll be fine.
 
I recommended people to watch videos.

Some instructors don't like it because newbies starts getting confused as they try to replicate the moves that they just watched.

Me I like it. I can sit down and breakdown new techniques and discuss pro and cons.
 
There are a lot of techniques in bjj and watching videos might be a bit overwhelming as a beginner. You may also develop bad habits from watching the videos. Also, there are some people on youtube teaching that maybe should not be. These are the reasons I think an instructor might be against it.

I think getting more exposure by watching videos is good. It can be difficult to practice things on your own. Videos will help you see things and keep you thinking about what you are doing. Some are very entertaining and well done also.

If you are curious and want to watch videos go ahead. Just don't interrupt class to talk about what you saw. I doubt your teacher will check your browser history to make sure that you didn't.
 
Unless you watch stuff about eye gouging and flying heel hooks, worst that can happen is you try something and it doesn't work. It's childish to make a big deal out of it.
 
A big component of "not watching tech videos" is knowing the difference between good and bad technique. There are many good ones AND bad ones out there and it's not very clear as a new grappler how to differentiate. I remember as a white belt looking at garbage Submissions 101 back in 2008.
 
The problem with some videos they aren't done well. As a newbie you might not be able to figure out what is good and what is bad. If your gonna watch videos is the beginning watch matches of high level players so you can see how it's done at the highest level. BJJ is a long long journey. Get some basics down and progress! Enjoy the ride you'll be on it for awhile!
 
I'm a youtube-jitsu black belt. LOL. But seriously, as former white belt technique video hoarder I can attest to the fact that videos can either be detrimental or beneficial depending on how you use them.

Problems:
Students will spend precious open mat time trying youtube techniques instead of the techniques they just spent an hour drilling. This will slow down a student's progress.
Students will see a different variation on a video and distrust their professor's knowledge.
Students can start to believe they know more than they actually know.
Students can perform moves they don't understand and seriously injure themselves or others.

Benefits:

It opens your eyes to different concepts that may not have been discussed in class
You're usually getting proven techniques from world champions and top competitors
It's free

So as you can see, there are more problems than there are benefits so you have to be careful. My advice is to make your in class techniques the priority. This is where you can establish a foundation that you can build on. That way when you go to include your youtube technique's, you'll have a decent idea of how they really work. From experience, it wasn't until I started focusing on class material first that everything else started to click. Now, some of my best moves are moves that I learned straight from videos.
 
I think the best use of videos for white belts is brushing up on what they've been taught. If your instructor showed you a technique that you're having trouble grasping or are forgetting details, finding a reputable instructor showing that technique step by step with detailed instructions can be invaluable for ingraining that technique into your brain.
 
Much better to spend your time analyzing competition footage, even as a white belt. Watch how guys move, and note what positions they use over and over. Eventually, you can start reverse-engineering the techniques for yourself. Make sure to watch whole matches, not just the highlight reels.
It would be a lost cause to tell n00bz they shouldn't watch videos, but we can help direct their focus in the right direction.
 
The vast majority of techniques on youtube is bullshit.
 
to begin with, it is good to just expose yourself to everything. The key here is not to get too hung up on particular YouTube techniques, unless they're basics. Just get a birds eye view of what's possible. But focus your time on what you learn from your instructor

1) he puts time into making sure you get what you need to grow. He is better at jiujitsu than you and has taught people before. So trust his curriculum/judgement

2) you've drilled them.

Doesn't mean you shouldn't watch technique tho. That's dumb. Just don't get hung up on it.
 
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I think the best use of videos for white belts is brushing up on what they've been taught. If your instructor showed you a technique that you're having trouble grasping or are forgetting details, finding a reputable instructor showing that technique step by step with detailed instructions can be invaluable for ingraining that technique into your brain.

As a six-week noob, I agree with this. Our beginner's course matches up with Gracie Combatives. There are a lot of videos from Rener/Riron and Gracie Barra affiliates that match up almost exactly with what we're learning. The videos are good to go over to remind myself about what I'm supposed to be doing in between classes (and then I forget everything anyways).
 
Assuming you go to a real site and not hack YouTube, I think some of it is instructor ego and old school grumpiness.

In the modern era of pay sites, there is no way your instructor teaches closed guard better than Braulio or Caio, berimbolo better than Rafa, or knee slide better than Gui. It's more likely that your instructor teaches a nice that doesn't work than one of those guys teaching a bad move.
 
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Assuming you go to a real site and not hack YouTube, I think some of it is instructor ego and old school grumpiness.

In the modern era of pay sites, there is no way your instructor teaches closed guard better than Braulio or Caio, berimbolo better than Rafa, or knee slide better than Gui. It's more likely that your instructor teaches a nice that doesn't work than one of those guys

It's also a disadvantage. If Rafa claims that the way your instructor shows something sucks it's hard to stay motivated while drilling that move.
A lot of instructors would hugely benefit from a mendes bros etc. subscription instead of often teaching moves that they don't even use themselves but their old school coach taught them.
 
Watch whatever videos you want, but always keep your focus on the basics that you are learning on the gym. The problem is not watch videos about BJJ, is try to apply advanced techniques from videos without knowing the basics first.
 
Online videos are a great resource for students to learn the ever expanding art of BJJ. However, for newer students I would suggest that there is more harm than good from browsing Youtube and a large majority of the instruction sites. As will be discussed below there are a number of problems with Youtube et al that the average white belt does not either understand let alone see as an issue. Though Youtube and the others can be helpful later on in the BJJ progression as a white belt your time is better spent drilling the basics and learning the fundamentals of movement.

The biggest issue, as a lowly purple belt, that I see with "white belt youtube" is that most people can't tell the good from the bad, the bad from the worse, and the worse from the bullshit. There is a ton of content on Youtube and most of it is done somewhere between good and ok. There is also a bunch of junk from both technique wise (the lug nut anyone?) and from a filming and instructional level (bad camera angles, lighting, explnation.

Even if the student can find a good instructional there are a number of issues that can arise. First, a white belt may not even understand how the technique fits within the larger pattern of BJJ. More problematic is that a number of good instructionals assume that you know the basics and don't point out small techniques or movements within the technique that make it functional or workable. At this point you are handing a white belt a move that they don't know when or how to use it and if by some chance they luck into the right spot they can't actually make it work because they miss some major point within the technique that went unexplained.

More problematic is the bad to worse techniques on Youtube. As mentioned above your average white belt is not going to be able to distinguish between good and bad Youtube. Now you are just handing a white belt poor technique that is only going to hamper their development. It may ingrain in their mind a fundamentally incorrect movement, concept, or even technique. The consequences of this don't need to be explained as they are clear and obvious.

The other major issues that arises is that Youtube can lead white and even blue belts down a narrow path of specialization. There is nothing wrong with having a great guard or incredible passing. However, from personal experience, Youtube and a few instructional sites let me focus in on very small subsets of the guard that I became very proficient at. However, it was detrimental to my overall game as I was working on very advanced guards while I ignored the basics of passing, closed guard, and some simpler open guards. Youtube and instructional sites allow this to happen because you can find a million and one videos on some esoteric guard or pass. You get focused in on this element to the determinant of your total growth.

This is not to say the Youtube and instructional sites are bad and should be completely ignored. They should instead be used as supplement to your training. For example, if you find a style of closed guard that you really like and want to learn a bit more then online instruction can be a good supplement. However, I would recccomend waiting until mid blue before starting down this route. It will help you seperate junk from gold. Be sure to focus on creating a well rounded game and not just chasing the current guard or passing position that is popular in the BJJ meta. Guards, passes, and styles come and go in the meta but the fundamentals of those styles will always work.
 
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